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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 03:20 PM
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im a tech at acura and need help from a tech who knows alot about wheel alignments or anybody who can give me the answer to module SSC36 question 11 i will try to post a pic of the test for those who wanna take a shot at it and see if they can get the right answer ive tried im just drawing a blank now i need help for this one
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 06:59 PM
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im a tech at acura and need help from a tech who knows alot about wheel alignments or anybody who can give me the answer to module SSC36 question 11 i will try to post a pic of the test for those who wanna take a shot at it and see if they can get the right answer ive tried im just drawing a blank now i need help for this one
here is a link to look at them http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...1&l=935d980ba4
Haha what a cheater! The point of the modules is for you to learn! The vehicle is toe'd out on the left side. It will pull to the left(question1 ) In order for the car to go straight the steering will have to be offset to the right. But if the driver does not touch the wheel, it will offset left.
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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Haha what a cheater! The point of the modules is for you to learn! The vehicle is toe'd out on the left side. It will pull to the left(question1 ) In order for the car to go straight the steering will have to be offset to the right. But if the driver does not touch the wheel, it will offset left.
camber and caster cause a pull or a drift and no tire wear and does not off set the steering wheel Toe causes tire wear and the steering wheel to be off set
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 09:45 AM
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and toe does not cause a pull or drift
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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camber and caster cause a pull or a drift and no tire wear and does not off set the steering wheel Toe causes tire wear and the steering wheel to be off set
Camber does indeed cause tire wear,and very rarely causes a pull or drift.
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and toe does not cause a pull or drift
Toe does indeed induce pulling or drifting. But since you already have the answers why are you asking???
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 11:37 AM
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i dont have the answers im just quoting what that module said about the toe camber and caster i thought that by stating that it mite help
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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im a tech at acura and need help from a tech who knows alot about wheel alignments or anybody who can give me the answer to module SSC36 question 11 i will try to post a pic of the test for those who wanna take a shot at it and see if they can get the right answer ive tried im just drawing a blank now i need help for this one
here is a link to look at them
here is the link if the one on top does not work for those who want to see the test http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...1&l=0e9ce0cce6
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 03:32 PM
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i dont have the answers im just quoting what that module said about the toe camber and caster i thought that by stating that it mite help
Ok gotcha. Well for the purpose of your module, question 1: I would put "no" based on the info they supply. and question 2: the steering wheel will be to the right. question3: the front left tire will wear on the inside.



Test questions and real world applications dont always jive. Sometimes you just gotta give the answer they want. But rest assured that a vehicle that is toe'd left or right will drift or pull left or right. Also the thrust angle of a vehicle is determined by the rear toe. If the rear toe is out, the vehicle will drift or push in the direction of the thrust angle. In fact look for TSB's released by Honda in ISIS about alignments. Part of the diagnostic process for curing drift or pull is to make sure the toe angles are correct.
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 03:51 PM
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Ok gotcha. Well for the purpose of your module, question 1: I would put "no" based on the info they supply. and question 2: the steering wheel will be to the right. question3: the front left tire will wear on the inside.



Test questions and real world applications dont always jive. Sometimes you just gotta give the answer they want. But rest assured that a vehicle that is toe'd left or right will drift or pull left or right. Also the thrust angle of a vehicle is determined by the rear toe. If the rear toe is out, the vehicle will drift or push in the direction of the thrust angle. In fact look for TSB's released by Honda in ISIS about alignments. Part of the diagnostic process for curing drift or pull is to make sure the toe angles are correct.
thanks im gonna try it right now im alook at that tsb
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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it still failed me on that question i just dont know what they want or how they want me to answer it but this one question is whats holding me back from being at 100%
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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1 pull to right
2 wheel to left
3 wear on inside of both front tires. I would almost say the outside of fronts also.
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 06:58 PM
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those where not the answers luciferi i tried both ways with inner wear and inner and outer wear it still failed me thanks for trying
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 09:17 PM
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I tried.

To me the questions are worded poorly.

The left front is toed in, so holding the wheel straight will wear the left front. My thought is that if wheel is held straight, it will steer to right.

If it is pulling to the right then you have to turn the wheel to left to go straight. That would wear both tires.


Rereading the second question" with no driver input" input, i did not fully read before. My guess is that with that it would naturally center itself making the steering wheel go to the left.

I think like the poster above said, there is a real word disconnect. Honda definition says toe won't make it pull or drift. I understand that point of view but like most people don't really seperate pull/drift from offset wheel.


What is honda's definition of excessive? When the toe averages out it is almost within listed total toe in spec. So i can't see honda claiming it as excessive.

This seems close to what happens after a tech screws up and aligns a car with the steering wheel off center.


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1 no pull
2 wheel to left
3 no wear
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 05:37 AM
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i agree with you
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 05:41 AM
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yea it still failed me. i know if camber was out like that i would think something is bent on the car
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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yea it still failed me. i know if camber was out like that i would think something is bent on the car
Meh, the camber does not seem out too excessive. All though it is out of specs. Tough call, none of your buddies have taken this module? Im curious as to what answers the module wants.



Ok they say the toe will not cause a pull. The caster is OK and the camber is equally out on both sides. The thrust is also ok. So lets say:

1.no
2. no
3.tire wear on the both front tires on the inside.
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 10:13 AM
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Meh, the camber does not seem out too excessive. All though it is out of specs. Tough call, none of your buddies have taken this module? Im curious as to what answers the module wants.



Ok they say the toe will not cause a pull. The caster is OK and the camber is equally out on both sides. The thrust is also ok. So lets say:

1.no
2. no
3.tire wear on the both front tires on the inside.
no none fo them have taken this module yet but i asked them and they drew a blank too.yea that wasnt the answer.this question pisses me off
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 05:15 PM
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no none fo them have taken this module yet but i asked them and they drew a blank too.yea that wasnt the answer.this question pisses me off
Well Im not sure what else to say. The most plausible answers have been wrong so far. At this point it is just a Wild *** Guess. Good luck man.
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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i have about 100 answers to the honda interactive network module tests i will email them to anyone who can figure out module SSC36 question 11 in the steering and suspension. i only need question 11 i have the rest of the answers
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i have about 100 answers to the honda interactive network module tests i will email them to anyone who can figure out module SSC36 question 11 in the steering and suspension. i only need question 11 i have the rest of the answers
What about question 12? I can't figure out 11, and all 3 master techs I work with can't do it, but somehow they have it complete. This module is pissing me off, I skipped it and complete all my modules and I come back to this one. I've tired all I thought it was, and found this post. It is making me angry!
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i have the answer to question 11 as well as the rest of the tesr just not 12 if u want the answer to 11 let me know we can work something out
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Old May 1, 2013 | 04:56 PM
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Okay its a pita I know lol but after long long thought this is there reasoning excessive total toe causes inside tire wear on each wheel on the axle such as camber would so the answer is, wear on the inside of each front tire, no pull, steering wheel offset to the right.
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