Dear all,

I post these for a friend who got these camshafts from Cyprus (they are getting spare parts dirrect from Japan). They advice him that they are Toda C with Toda valvesprings.

But they are not labeled with "C". He ask them (the shop, he bought them from) and they replied that the label "C" is only for camshafts which go to Europe and USA, not those for Japanese market.

Can you please check from the photos if thoose cams are Toda C and if not? can you please advice what they are?

We'll much appreciate any help.

 

Damn those look big. I personally don't know how to read japanese or their marking system and good luck with finding that info on this site. There are MAYBE a handful of people who can be helpful with this as it is not a US stamped cam. The intake cam looks like it has a C on the bottom unless my eyes are playing tricks on me.

 

My Toda C's are stamped C not engraved like that. Not sure why they would stamp the US versions and not the Japanese market. The valve springs look like the Toda ones I have but it will be hard to say for sure.

Here is a pic of the end of one of my cams.


Here is a pic of them sitting in the head.

 

Many thanks for your input. Yes there is something like "C" but very eratic..
As you just said they look big, but primaries and secondaries are not the same, and we thought that Toda C actually have the same primaries and secondaries. For this we are confused..

 

Many thanks for the photos. Your primaries and secondaries looks like the same...hmmm..?

 

yes they are the same.

 

JUNIII

 

jun 3 cams have the same primary and secondary lobe. the vtec lobe is substantially larger.

 

I bought my Toda Cs in Nagano Japan, and they look just like the ones sold in the U.S. with the "C" on them.. Who knows what you have...

 

Many thanks guys for all the advice. That is what I believe that they are actually.. Jun 3.

Jun 3 they haven't got the same primaries and secondaries

http://www.junauto.co.jp/products/camshaft/b16.html

Also as Shodan explain doesn't matter that they are from Japanese market. Should have the "C" label on if they supposed to be Toda C. Hope they'll make as much power as the Toda C, as we prefer to not return them. They're going in a B20 with 12 C/R.

 

I doubt its a TODA. My Toda cams I bought from hongkong does have C stamped on them. Also your cams is a bit smaller than the TODA C.

Profiles are also different than my Jun3.

 

u better start learning how to read japanesse! lol

are there any grooves or slits on the distributor and exhaust ends on the camshafts?

 

Hello. Nobody else has any idea what could be;;;

 

A good place to start is getting a caliper and measuring the lobes. While it will not tell the whole story it will give you a ballpark idea.

 

what we will do eventually just say Did brings some edge to the symbols.

 

I wouldn't rely on the inscriptions, they may or may not be accurate.

 

is it spoon??? has foto nobody;;; from symbols...

 

looks like they were identifying marks from a previous owner who didn't want to lose track of them. I've seen that on MANY camshafts that were of a custom design or something else, and wanted an identifying mark.

 

sorry to go off track. what is the difference between the toda's with the big c and the todas stamped with a small c? possibly toda c and toda c2? are there any spec changes?

 

difference not know if they have <c> with <c2> the matter is that we do not know what cam is. And I Is Spoon.

 

can someone help??

 

They aren't toda, Toda doesn't stagger primaries. Those have staggered primaries.

Also, the writing on the end looks like someone took a nail and just went to town. Normally "real" cams that are stampped are stampped normally or have eitching. thats neither.

Probably some knock offs, maybe JUNIII knock offs possibly.. they aren't toda.. the vtec lobe seems pretty big, so it leads me to believe its a "tuner" type cam, like tuner 2 or tuner 3'..maybe.

 

I have a set of JunIII's and Toda C's ... The cam pictured is neither of these. Toda cams are stamped as mentioned. The Jun III's look hand etched and should read H103 on EX cam and H003 on intake cam. Sorry I do not have pics as they are both in motors at the moment.

 

i have custom grind cams with no markings at all. they were original honda cams. now they are regrinded.

so just because it has no markings or stamps does not mean knock off.

custom cam guy could have the best cam grind ever and we wouldnt know

 

All I know is that it is skunk, toda, jun and deceived me