Hi,

Was wondering if anybody runs Hprod and what to expect the general cost would be per season?

Thanks

 

H or any of the Prods are NOT cheap.

The antique rules of the SCCA allow you to spend yourself quite broke.

I have an H Prod Fit. It gets more expensive every day.

 

Well I know that racing is not cheap but was just curious what the cost was per season. Are they more expensive then the other national classes?

 

It seems that the spec classes are reasonable (only compared to the open classes).

The rules don't seem to make sense to me ... Example; I can't open up the throttle body bore fro a little more power ... But I can run any transmission internals I want, including sequential shift (for a weight pentalty)

So instead of a couple of hundred dollar modification ... I can spend about $11,000 on a custom gear transmission, and oops I need a spare, so double that (or even use a $37,000 X-trac transmission).

Sorry I don't have a dollar per weekend figure yet ... I'm not sure I want to total it up.

It really boils down to how much you can spend. You WILL spend it all.

 

Something that I have always thought, but never put any data to, to find out if it real or fiction:

In spec classes the cost to find horespower is spent in the time for a machinist to engineer a perfect engine. In a more open class, the cost to find horsepower is cheaper because you can bolt on the horsepower.

True, dunno, just a thought.

 

The issue with the Production and GT classes vs the Spec classes is the level of prep. Since you can touch every system on the car, you HAVE to re-engineer everything to be competitive. With the spec classes you will spend a bunch of time looking for that perfect part to fit within the rules. For example in GT, I can throw away the chassis and replace it with a tube chassis. (I think that is dumb), but Think about how much re-design that will take. Now look at SuperTouring, you can use bolt on parts and it helps keep the costs down, but you will still have the open rules that allow you to do certain things. HP is not going to be nearly as expensive as the other production classes, but you will be out there with the slowest cars on track besides the ITC cars.

You can't do things like huge brake upgrades, super fat tires, etc, but you can run slicks, depending on the car, move suspension mounting points, etc. But you are stuck with certain parts that can and do fail when pushed to racing levels.

Depending on the number of races and the consumables you go through, in theory you could spend 50K a year, but if you are like the average racer, you will be spending $1000-2000 per weekend. Building the car is not counted in that, nor are major rebuilds like an engine or transmission. Most of the engines in the class are really small so you have to build hand grenades. Plus the later model Civics have to run at a heavier weight, which is hard on the tires. Remember, heavy is bad for a FWD. 13x6in wheels don't allow for much brake or tire. Keep that in mind.

 

So essentially the H Production is similar to ITC but the dash is out and there is more money spent on the motor? Greg Gauper civic appear to have a good showing

 

Speed wise yeah, they will be a little faster, but expect most everything else on the track to go around you. They were by far the slowest cars on track at the runoffs.

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