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DIY: Re-route D16Y7 throttle cable for better pedal feel

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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 10:14 AM
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Default DIY: Re-route D16Y7 throttle cable for better pedal feel

The throttle pedal feel of this car has bugged me ever since I've owned it. It never felt smooth (some say it had a "notchy" feel) and it was very noticeable while giving small throttle inputs, especially while going in reverse. After cleaning the throttle body about a hundred times, fiddling with the pedal, adjusting the cable, re-lubing the cable, and replacing the throttle cable itself, it still felt crappy.

I then looked at the routing of the cable. From the factory, the cable make a series of hard bends on it's way to the throttle body. I then attempted to lessen the angles of the bends (to reduce friction or even binding) by finding a more circular route for it. Here is what I came up with...

This works for the D16Y7 only, but the idea may be applied to many different cars.

Tools:

10mm socket
ratchet




Here is a link for a new throttle cable, a measly $14 (before shipping):

D16Y7 Throttle Wire





1996 DX: Here is the stock route of the cable. I have included before & after pics at the end of this post.
Sorry for the dirty engine bay, this is my beater that has been used for winter duty since I've owned it.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26016203@N03/6560121929/

The cable enters the firewall to the left of the brake booster. This is actually the first hard bend the cable
makes, nearly 90º.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26016203@N03/6560122153/

It then goes to a holder behind the brake master cylinder reservoir. It just pops in and out, you may need
to use pliers.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26016203@N03/6560122509/

Then fish it out from behind the reservoir. Looking straighter already.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26016203@N03/6560123007/

Then move to the next holder.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26016203@N03/6560123305/

Just pop it out for now.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26016203@N03/6560123721/

The last holder you need to deal with is on the valve cover next to the oil cap.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26016203@N03/6560124179/

Pop the cable out of the holder and loosen the 10mm bolt. Swing the holder around from the 12 o'clock
position to about 7 o'clock.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26016203@N03/6560125029/

Next re-install the cable, then tighten the holder bolt. The idea is not to force the cable to sit in any
particular position, but to let it sit the way it wants to.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26016203@N03/6560125409/

Go back to the previous holder. The fat part that squeezes into it needs to be slid down for the cable to sit
in a more natural position.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26016203@N03/6560125623/

Pop it back in, and you're done.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26016203@N03/6560126097/


Here is the before & after. Notice the smoother bend transitions of the new route.

Before:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26016203@N03/6560126593/
After:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26016203@N03/6560121675/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26016203@N03/6560126415/


This absolutely fixed my pedal feel problems entirely. If you are having the similar problems with your Y7, this is something you should try. It's easy, free and you don't even need to bend anything. I also highly recommend a new throttle cable, they are not expensive from Majestic Honda (link at the beginning of this post).





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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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Default Re: DIY: Re-route D16Y7 throttle cable for better pedal feel

Gees id say your cable is probably rusty on the inside!
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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Default Re: DIY: Re-route D16Y7 throttle cable for better pedal feel

Originally Posted by green91
Gees id say your cable is probably rusty on the inside!
Originally Posted by mcvtec
After cleaning the throttle body about a hundred times, fiddling with the pedal, adjusting the cable,
re-lubing the cable, and replacing the throttle cable itself, it still felt crappy.
TL;DR?


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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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Default Re: DIY: Re-route D16Y7 throttle cable for better pedal feel

^lulz, will try tomorrow
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 02:44 PM
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Default Re: DIY: Re-route D16Y7 throttle cable for better pedal feel

that intake manifold sucks it's better to upgrade to a auto y8 intake manifold if running a y7. u still can use a 3 wire iacv on it because the 2 wire is plugged. u can drill it out and tap it if u want to do to a 2 wire at any time the spot is still located on the intake manifold. then your throttle cable wont have all those bends
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Old May 9, 2013 | 04:36 PM
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Default Re: DIY: Re-route D16Y7 throttle cable for better pedal feel

Just wanted to say thanks for the advice. Just rerouted my throttle cable in my Y7 as your post suggested. The sticky pedal has been bugging me for quite awhile.
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Old May 9, 2013 | 05:30 PM
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Default Re: DIY: Re-route D16Y7 throttle cable for better pedal feel

well since you bumped an old topic anyway you should just go ahead and recalibrate your tps its absolutely worth 100% of your time to

https://honda-tech.com/forums/tech-misc-15/diy-how-calibrating-voltage-your-tps-sensor-2947986/
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 04:16 PM
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Default Re: DIY: Re-route D16Y7 throttle cable for better pedal feel

Bump because I still come back here sometimes and because the pics still work itt
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