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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 11:44 AM
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Honda Performance Developments had a very nice booth at this year's PRI. They showcased the various engines they sell or lease, such as the V8 for Indy, the twin turbo V6 for LMP2, the K20, the Formula F(ord) Fit motor and a smaller motor. Plus they had their body in white Civic, with a bunch of parts including carbon fibre brake cooling duct plates and Kevalr bumper inlet ducts, as well as brake and suspension components. I took some pictures you might find interesting. If you need some Xmas presents from a rich benefactor (or Santa), call HPD.

Rather nice blade adjustable sway bar for the rear. Honda Racing bling.
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And now engines. Dry sump goodness on a K20 and on a twin turbo V-6 with new mdeol Borg Warner turbos on a modified Accord engine. don't ask how much. I did!
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Last one. Honda turbo FTW. Anyone for dry sump?
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yummm

I love the routing and materials for the brake duct work.
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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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blade style sway bar and camber adjustable top hats are pretty awesome!
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Awesome pics and quality of parts.
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Damn you Honda. Why couldn't you have done awesome stuff like this back in the day when you had cars worth putting it on? Please start making cars that are relevant again. Oh, yeah, stop making cars with crappy suspension designs.
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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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Yummm is right. Thanks for the pics
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 05:35 AM
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Damn you Honda. Why couldn't you have done awesome stuff like this back in the day when you had cars worth putting it on? Please start making cars that are relevant again. Oh, yeah, stop making cars with crappy suspension designs.
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 07:27 AM
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If only you can purchase an EF/EG/DC/EK/DA like this
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 07:28 AM
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The v6 motor looks like a modified production unit. Figured it be more out there on a different base. Bad *** none the less
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Originally Posted by 914Racer
Damn you Honda. Why couldn't you have done awesome stuff like this back in the day when you had cars worth putting it on? Please start making cars that are relevant again. Oh, yeah, stop making cars with crappy suspension designs.
yes i love the way u think ! ^ this guy has common sence !
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Originally Posted by donut.
If only you can purchase an EF/EG/DC/EK/DA like this
Seriously! All I can think when I see those pics is "How can I make that brake duct kit fit my DA!?"
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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Damn, and me without a 2012 civic shell. I agree they need to give some of that love to ef, eg, ek guys. You can always fab the brake ducting to fit your chassis? Not much else applies except one of those beautiful engines might look nice in my ek...LOL
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they need those front ducts for S2000s!!
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 10:42 AM
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Yeah, I'm assuming there's a chance it could work with very little modifications. But there's also a chance it wouldn't really work at all. The part number doesn't register on the online sites yet, so I can't look up the price, but my guess is that it'd be way more than I'd be willing to spend just to do a fitment test. Very tempting though.
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By looking at the pics of it on the chassis compared to my setup on a dc2 I think your tire will rub the tube. But the carbon duct looks promising
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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Yeah, the carbon part was the only part I was looking at, the rest looks way too big to fit in that area on my DA.
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Originally Posted by Colin
Yeah, I'm assuming there's a chance it could work with very little modifications. But there's also a chance it wouldn't really work at all. The part number doesn't register on the online sites yet, so I can't look up the price, but my guess is that it'd be way more than I'd be willing to spend just to do a fitment test. Very tempting though.
I think they are only available through HPD racer program.


And to the comment about how similiar the V6 looks to the production motor, again i THINK that is some sort of ALMS requirement... I thought i remember reading something about that...
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I think they are only available through HPD racer program.


And to the comment about how similiar the V6 looks to the production motor, again i THINK that is some sort of ALMS requirement... I thought i remember reading something about that...
I spoke to a person at the booth and he told me it was indeed based on the stock Accord V6. When I asked how much he said 53 (thousand)! Just under 500 HP.

"For 2011, the Automobile Club de l'Ouest (ACO), rule-making body for sports-prototype competition, requires production-based engines for LMP2, to be sold or leased under a series-mandated price cap. That requirement led to development of the HR28TT, a 2.8-liter, twin-turbo V-6 utilizing Honda's exclusive engine-control system.

Multiple teams will utilize the new HPD engine in 2011, including Level 5 Motorsports, which has announced a multi-car ALMS effort. Le Mans Series class champion RML Racing is expected to defend its LMP2 crown with HPD power, along with Strakka Racing, winner of three races in 2011, including the LMP2 class at Le Mans and an overall victory at the Hungaroring.

Based on Honda's global V-6 as found in the Accord, Odyssey and other Honda/Acura models, the racing version of this engine is the result of a joint effort between HPD and Honda R&D Americas, Inc. (HRA).

Starting in March of last year, engine design and development engineers from HRA's Raymond, Ohio R&D Center worked with HPD race engineers to create a powerful racing engine that still meets the ACO's new, lower price targets for LMP2."

"Honda Performance Development is the first engine manufacturer to release details of an engine that complies with the ACO’s revised technical regulations that go into effect for the 2011 ALMS/Le Mans season. This new HPD LMP2 engine, based on Honda‘s global V6 engine used in everything from the Accord to the Acura ZDX, is a 2.8-liter twin-turbo that utilizes HPD’s exclusive engine-control system.

This engine is the product of a joint effort between HPD and Honda R&D Americas, Inc. (HRA). Product R&D engineers from HRA’s Raymond, Ohio center worked with HPD race engineers to create a powerful racing engine that meets the new regulations that state that the engine must be production-based and must cost no more than $90,000.

It is expected that this new 2.8-liter turbo V6 will be fitted to Highcroft Racing’s P2 chassis for competition in the American Le Mans series, while in Europe it will be Strakka Racing putting this engine to use in the European Le Mans series. It’s unclear at this point if Highcroft and Strakka will be required to manufacture a new chassis for 2011 or if their existing P2 cars (which are currently powered by a 3.4-liter V8) will be allowed to run the new turbo V6. We’ll let you know as soon as these details become available."
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As installed in an LMP2 chassis. I remember thinking that the intake manifold was most interesting, as were the extremely close coupled twin turbos.
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 07:07 AM
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The exhaust manifold arrangement is fascinating. Look at how simple and direct it is. There is no high end manifold to crack and fail half way through the race. No gaskets to fail, they are probably cooling the cylinder head around that manifold. They are running it in as a non stressed member so that cuts down on the development time and costs. Looks to be an interesting package.
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Plus they are using the internal wastegate on the Borg Warner turbo, which is in itself a very good design from a flow point of view. I had a long discussion about that and other things with an engineer at the Borg Warner booth at the PRI show. Only problem is that due to their good internal wastegate design, it makes the turbine housing quite long and hard to retro-fit in some applications. But you can really see the benefit of using it on that Honda V6 as there is not need to put a pipe to go to the wastegate and of course no dump tube required. Less parts to crack. For instance, my Full-Race manifold cracked at the wastegate pipe where it connects to the collector. Had to send it back to them for a re-weld with the addition of a bracket. The Honda design avoids all the mess and weight and heat radiation from a large manifold. Plus it makes the packaging very easy. Just have to look at another installed pic in the LMP car.

Many of the parts on that engine were done with 3D rapid prototyping, including the connection between the manifold and the turbo: http://www.impression-3d.info/IMG/pd...te_CPX3000.pdf
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