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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 03:47 AM
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Hi HT Team,

I'm looking to fit an Si (known as EM1 in Oz) rsb and fsb to my EK1 - but came across this Eibach kit while searching: http://passwordjdm.com/Eibach-Anti-R...7763C1539.aspx

It looks like a decent package and the brand has a good reputation handling wise from what I know of it. Also, the specs of the bars aren't that different to what a stock Si is.

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Just to give you an idea of how much more expensive things are in Australia - this is the stock/discounted price my Honda dealer gave me for the Si rsb (doesn't even include the front!):

RSB - $193.00 stock order ($269.40)
D bracket - $8.00 each
Bushes - $11.40 each
Lock bolts - $7.85 each
End links - $138.00 each stock order ($192.30)
Mounting brackets - $27.10 each
4 bolts - $5.40 each
4 bolts - $2.75 each
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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What are your plans for the car? Are you still runing the OEM front bar?
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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Man I want Eibach's Sport-System. But first I would need a car worthy of it.



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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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The Eibach Anti Roll kit is great for a street car. However, these kits are designed for cars with factory sway bars.

For the front: you would need the front LCAs from an EX model along with the d-brackets. It comes with endlinks.

For the rear: you need endlinks, subframe brackets and d-brackets along with all the mount bolts and nuts. Eibach sells the OE Honda pieces needed for the rear bar which may be cheaper than you going to Honda. The Eibach part number for the OE hardware is 4018.312HKR.
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 09:24 AM
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I had the Sportline Plus kit on my Del Sol and it made a huge difference in the handling of the car. I still have the Sportline springs on mt EJ, love them.
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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Thanks for all the replies guys!

Originally Posted by 98civdx
What are your plans for the car? Are you still runing the OEM front bar?
Yes, still running the stock 22mm fsb.

My plans are the keep the d series engine for the time being and upgrade to Koni adjustables down the track.

Other light suspension/tyre mods include Spoon Sports progressive springs (with EK1 OEM dampers), Mugen front tower bar and 15" Si alloys (195/50/15).


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Man I want Eibach's Sport-System. But first I would need a car worthy of it.
Originally Posted by nealnanoHX
I had the Sportline Plus kit on my Del Sol and it made a huge difference in the handling of the car. I still have the Sportline springs on mt EJ, love them.
Wow, sounds like the rep is quite good on the street!


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The Eibach Anti Roll kit is great for a street car. However, these kits are designed for cars with factory sway bars.

For the front: you would need the front LCAs from an EX model along with the d-brackets. It comes with endlinks.

For the rear: you need endlinks, subframe brackets and d-brackets along with all the mount bolts and nuts. Eibach sells the OE Honda pieces needed for the rear bar which may be cheaper than you going to Honda. The Eibach part number for the OE hardware is 4018.312HKR.
Thanks mate, this is a really helpful reply.

I have the EK1 model which already has the holes in the LCA - so all good on the fsb.

But I'm confused now - going by the picture below doesn't the kit come with all the necessary endlinks and bushings in the kit - can we tell from the pic what is missing and I need to source?

Thanks also for the OE part number!

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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by apalmucci
Thanks mate, this is a really helpful reply.

I have the EK1 model which already has the holes in the LCA - so all good on the fsb.

But I'm confused now - going by the picture below doesn't the kit come with all the necessary endlinks and bushings in the kit - can we tell from the pic what is missing and I need to source?

Thanks also for the OE part number!
As long as your front LCAs have the endlink mounting holes you should be good to go. The EM1/EK9 front LCAs are different and the bar will not work unless you have the EX style LCA with the hole facing straight down.

Also, the picture posted is not the actual sway bar you would get. I know this because I've had these bars on my Civic and I work at Eibach USA.
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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As long as your front LCAs have the endlink mounting holes you should be good to go. The EM1/EK9 front LCAs are different and the bar will not work unless you have the EX style LCA with the hole facing straight down.

Also, the picture posted is not the actual sway bar you would get. I know this because I've had these bars on my Civic and I work at Eibach USA.
You are definitely the right man to talk to then!

So, just so I'm clear (sorry if I sound noob) you're saying:

FSB
* The Eibach kits comes with all necessary hardware for the fsb (provided I have the correct LCA) - ie I don't need to buy anything else for the install.

RSB
* In addition to the kit, I need to purchase:
1. Endlinks
2. Subframe brackets
3. D-brackets
4. Mounting bolts and nuts
5. Lock bolts
6. Bushes

Thanks again for your help,
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by apalmucci
Wow, sounds like the rep is quite good on the street!
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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If you've got an EM1 your front bar is a 26mm.

I would just buy an ASR brace and swaybar combo or a Function7 brace and a 23-24mm bar and call it a day.
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Originally Posted by apalmucci
You are definitely the right man to talk to then!

So, just so I'm clear (sorry if I sound noob) you're saying:

FSB
* The Eibach kits comes with all necessary hardware for the fsb (provided I have the correct LCA) - ie I don't need to buy anything else for the install.

RSB
* In addition to the kit, I need to purchase:
1. Endlinks
2. Subframe brackets
3. D-brackets
4. Mounting bolts and nuts
5. Lock bolts
6. Bushes

Thanks again for your help,
For the front you will need front D-Brackets and 4 bolts. Numbers 3 and 21 in the first attached image.

For the rear in the second image you need numbers: 30, 31, 32, 34, 36, 28, 35, 33. The third image is what is included in the optional Eibach hardware kit (part# 4018.312HKR) which is everything you would need for the rear.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 03:37 PM
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For the front you will need front D-Brackets and 4 bolts. Numbers 3 and 21 in the first attached image.

For the rear in the second image you need numbers: 30, 31, 32, 34, 36, 28, 35, 33. The third image is what is included in the optional Eibach hardware kit (part# 4018.312HKR) which is everything you would need for the rear.
WOW! Thanks so much Jackson - I couldn't have asked for anything better - diagrams and detailing everything I need for the setup

Did I mention forums are a fantastic thing - and you guys in the States know so much more than in Oz!

If only shipping was cheaper!

But I have got a quote from Password JDM for the kit and an ASR subframe for $680 ($190 of this is for shipping to Australia) - so sounds like a pretty good deal to me!

Thanks again fellas
Cheers,
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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I would get a quote from somewhere else. In my experience PWJDM is seldom the cheapest, and has expensive shipping.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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did'nt you say you were trying to fit this set up on an Si (EM1)???

if thats the case its a direct bolt on installation on EVERYTHING in the eibach kit, you dont need anything (stock EM1-Si comes with front and rear sway bar) therefore everything you need is included in the kit
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Libertariat
I would get a quote from somewhere else. In my experience PWJDM is seldom the cheapest, and has expensive shipping.
Thanks mate - given I'm an Aussie - I'm not too familiar with all the websites in the States - can you recommend any?

NB: Car is an EK1 so I need the hardware kit
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jhpusa.com
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 02:32 AM
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corsport.com
jhpusa.com

Our vendor marketplace will also have several vendors who can.

No limit motorsports, robear racing, THMotorsports, etc etc.
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by pliskin8
jhpusa.com
Thanks mate


Originally Posted by Libertariat
corsport.com
jhpusa.com

Our vendor marketplace will also have several vendors who can.

No limit motorsports, robear racing, THMotorsports, etc etc.
Great, thanks for the leads fellas
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Originally Posted by pliskin8
did'nt you say you were trying to fit this set up on an Si (EM1)???

if thats the case its a direct bolt on installation on EVERYTHING in the eibach kit, you dont need anything (stock EM1-Si comes with front and rear sway bar) therefore everything you need is included in the kit
He was wanting to install the factory EM1 front and rear bars on his car until he came across the Eibach kit. He has an EK1 without sway bars.

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jhpusa.com
JHPUSA is direct with Eibach and is a great company.
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WOW! Thanks so much Jackson - I couldn't have asked for anything better - diagrams and detailing everything I need for the setup

Did I mention forums are a fantastic thing - and you guys in the States know so much more than in Oz!

If only shipping was cheaper!

But I have got a quote from Password JDM for the kit and an ASR subframe for $680 ($190 of this is for shipping to Australia) - so sounds like a pretty good deal to me!

Thanks again fellas
Cheers,
Alvis
Not a problem! You're welcome! I want to mention that the ASR subframe brace is NOT needed with the Eibach rear bar and will NOT work properly with the factory D-Brackets you need as the mounting holes are spaced differently. The ASR brace has mounting holes to be used with the ITR D-Brackets which are obviously wider to accomodate the bigger bar.

Just get the Eibach front and rear kit plus all of the necessary OE parts you need to mount it. The ASR brace is not needed.
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So will the Eibach F & R sway bars bolt right onto my '97 Civic EX? Note: I plan to install Moog front LCA's.
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 03:54 PM
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So will the Eibach F & R sway bars bolt right onto my '97 Civic EX? Note: I plan to install Moog front LCA's.
Just get the rear bar. Leave the front alone.
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Originally Posted by 98civdx
Just get the rear bar. Leave the front alone.
Why?
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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Why?
Because you already have one. Why spend the extra money?

bigger isn't always better.
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Thanks. :-)
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