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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 08:39 PM
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Now I know this sounds like kind of a newbie question but I want this thread to fill up with a range of opinions on a range of methods. I just got my JDM HRV Rims (16x6) and some Bridgestom Potenza RE 711's. This means it is probably time to lower the car a touch so it is back to where the factory intended it (and no bling stunnah dump yo either!!)

So anyway how to do it - Koni Yellows Drop Spring Seat and Factory Springs, Factory Struts and aftermarket springs, Koni yellows and after market springs or coilovers?? or just leave it that bit higher??

Major thing i dont wanna do is fu(k up the beautiful handling that the factory provided me with..........so share your experiences.............


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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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Why do you need to lower the car? With the correct tires, the diameter will not change much from stock, even with as high as 18" bling bling wheels (even though it may not work well, just using the size to prove a point.)
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 08:51 PM
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yeah i was wondering who was going to say this just didnt think it would be in the first post, tyre size is slightly off 215/45/16 yeah yeah they are my road rims and the tyres were dirt cheap
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 08:56 PM
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you can probably do more "damage" by messing with the suspension than trying to live with the difference in diameter or ride height.

with the ITR suspension it seems you have to spend considerable amount of money to improve the suspension. honestly, the first suspension upgrade is usually koni (or other brand) shocks. Springs are usually not a good mod unless you do a spring/shock combo that were designed to 1. work with each other and 2. work on an ITR.

good luck. ask some of the guys on the autocross/road racing forum. They may be able to help you out.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 08:57 PM
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:02 PM
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Soup **** - bah Ive been around for a while just laying low until I think of a stoopid question to ask, but thanks for you informative inpput
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:07 PM
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Why do you need to lower the R?
And as good as the "all mighty Type R" suspension is, there is always room for improvement.

the second reason is so your car doesn't look like ***. Non lowered cars look like absolute **** - especially if there are modded.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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And as good as the "all mighty Type R" suspension is, there is always room for improvement.
What specific faults did you have with the stock suspension?

the second reason is so your car doesn't look like ***. Non lowered cars look like absolute **** - especially if there are modded.
This is Stunna reasoning.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:14 PM
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What specific faults did you have with the stock suspension?
No faults but don't forget the Type R is still a mass produced car for public consumption. The baby seat bracket is still in my glove box.

This is Stunna reasoning.
No, this is basic esthetic reasoning 101. Similar to combing your hair, washing your clothes etc.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:16 PM
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Lowering your ITR for purely aesthetic reasons is fine but don't fool yourself into thinking your suspension setup is automatically better than stock. 99% of the time this isn't the case.

It's your ITR, do whatever you want with it, I don't care. You obviously didn't buy the car for competition use.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:19 PM
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I see alot of people on this board with at the very least springs.....surely they are not all stunnahs?? Anyway who wants to help me out because they dont sell H&R Springs or Koni Yellows for the ITR in Australia!!!! I can help you out with some parts over here ie Apexi etc as you dollar is double ours......
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:19 PM
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:20 PM
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I see alot of people on this board with at the very least springs.....surely they are not all stunnahs??
Most people in this forum are mainly into aesthetics.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:21 PM
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So what "Xtreem Racing" event was that?

You do realize your car is too low for optimal handling, correct?
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:21 PM
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Anyway back on topic..............please offer some suggestions
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:23 PM
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Anyway back on topic..............please offer some suggestions
Leave your suspension stock.

Lowering your car for aesthetics is all well and good but if you're going to do that you're sacrificing performance and it really doesn't matter what method you use. Get lowering springs, coilovers, whatever you feel like getting to ensure that your car "doesn't look like ***".
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:24 PM
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Actually that is my competitor website - has nothing to do with the event.

I will stop buggin you Reid. There is nothing wrong with being a die hard racer as long as you don't hate the other racers who add a touch of style.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:27 PM
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Actually that is my competitor website - has nothing to do with the event.

I will stop buggin you Reid. There is nothing wrong with being a die hard racer as long as you don't hate the other racers who add a touch of style.
"Racers" don't give a hoot about "style".

You are sacrificing performance, but it's your car and you're happy with it, and that's all that matters.

FWIW, if you raised it up a bit you might find the handling characteristics more to your liking. What spring rates are you running and what is the suspension setup?
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:27 PM
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Reid: Okay urrrr fine man leave it stock yeahp okay, well the GTP Type R's over here mostly run Koni Coil Overs GTP as in not road registered race only.......but to be honest given that i have only ever driven with the stock setup I couldnt tell you which was better or worse which is why I am asking

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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:30 PM
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Reid: Okay urrrr fine man leave it stock yeahp okay, well the GTP Type R's over here mostly run Koni Coil Overs GTP as in not road registered race only.......but to be honest given that i have only ever driven with the stock setup I couldnt tell you which was better or worse which is why I am asking
You're not understanding me.

Is it possible to improve on the handling of a stock ITR? Yes, it is.

The key is to make informed choices when choosing your upgrades.

If you're lowering your car for aesthetics, it does not matter what you get. There are many routes to achieve the lower stance you seek.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:34 PM
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My setup is stock shocks with Neuspeed sport springs. The car is actually not very low at all. In the pic it just seems liek it becaus eI'm turning.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:37 PM
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Reid: I am with you champ the "informed" decision will be based oninformation provided by people on this and other forums aboutwhat works and what doesnt. Like I have said above unfortunately there are not many speed shops where I live and there are only 3 other ITR's in town..........he he he he so help me out man buy me a set of H&R springs and send them over
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:37 PM
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Well to answer the original question:

98 Spec JDM ITRs come with 215/45/16 tyres (trying to be cool like George ) and the same suspension as all other ITRs.

You'll be fine with stock suspension and 215/45/16 tyres.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:39 PM
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so how much do spoon springs w/ stock shocks hurt the all mightly handling of the R. From the reviews I read it feels more planted and predictable. Why wouldn't I want that on my R???
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:40 PM
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koni yellows, down 1 setting on the perch. H&R race all around. <-setup for people who want a great setup both asthetically and performance.
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