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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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Default Car to Pit Telemetry - what are you guys using?

Some of the guys on my Chump Car team are trying to figure out a way to stream in-car telemetry from the car back to the pits.

What systems are you guys using, if any.

One of the guys found an Android app called Torque Pro that would work IN the car, but he's trying to figure out a way to have it send the data to a phone outside the car...

https://market.android.com/details?i...l.torque&hl=en



At the moment, we have the race cast app that just streams race info. Car order, laptime, fastest lap, etc...
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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Interested in this, I have a traqmate and Im not sure if it has an add on like this or not.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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Maybe give Motec or Tag-McLaren a call. Perhas Pi/Cosworth if those guys can't help. Are you loking for two-way or just one way telemetry?
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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I would need crew first....
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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Used PI and MoTeC, McLaren's stuff is crazy nice. This stuff is $20k minimum and upwards of a quarter million all decked out.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by descartesfool
Maybe give Motec or Tag-McLaren a call. Perhas Pi/Cosworth if those guys can't help. Are you loking for two-way or just one way telemetry?
Trying to avoid a +$50k system...we aren't running any sensors on the car that would warrant a high dollar system.

At the moment, I'm trying to find an app that might be able to view the phone display remotely from another smart phone or laptop.

Looks like this might fit the bill:

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/42491...android-phone/
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 06:05 PM
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This is a Chumpcar team and you want to use Motec/Pi? There is no easy way on the market to send telemetry to the pit on a budget since nobody has the need. I've used Bosch and Motec, both kits are extemely expensive, and much less useful than you'd think. How about a radio and a good dash? "How's the oil pressure?"... "fine."
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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This is a Chumpcar team and you want to use Motec/Pi? There is no easy way on the market to send telemetry to the pit on a budget since nobody has the need. I've used Bosch and Motec, both kits are extemely expensive, and much less useful than you'd think. How about a radio and a good dash? "How's the oil pressure?"... "fine."


Thats what i was thinking Matt....
A bit over kill for what you guys are doing.
Maybe invest in a used in car communication system.. plenty of those on ebay.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MBellRacing
How about a radio and a good dash? "How's the oil pressure?"... "fine."
That's part of the problem - our radios suck!
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Originally Posted by dirty19
A bit over kill for what you guys are doing.
Agreed, an expensive system is out of the question, but in this day in age with $5 apps for just about anything, if we can find a dinky system that gives a bit of info then why not use it?
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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I think you place too much trust in what isnt proven or would give you false readings.
Nothing better than a driver giving you feedback on what is happening with the car.
Asking too much of something that isnt worth the effort to use.
A radio upgrade would be money better spent.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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Im sure its just a matter of time, I like lo-buks comment lol I guess I could stream to the pits or to my wifes phone lol.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dirty19
I think you place too much trust in what isnt proven
Not at all, but I'm willing to give something a try. Sitting in the pits for non-driving stints can be a bit boring, so anything we can do to pass the time helps immensely.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 07:12 PM
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Not at all, but I'm willing to give something a try. Sitting in the pits for non-driving stints can be a bit boring, so anything we can do to pass the time helps immensely.
Well there is an app called "race monitor" that was used at the Thunderhil 25 hour event and We were able to see real time timing and leaderboard, and the cost was 5 bux.
Mylaps.com has it on their site and some tracks are already using it.
The organizers did a great job in setting up several antennas, and dividing the use to a set number of teams...
That helps kill some boredom.

I just dont think you can get telemetry from the car to your pits in a cost effective way.
Lets face it... its chump car not American LeMans.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dirty19
Well there is an app called "race monitor" that was used at the Thunderhil 25 hour event and We were able to see real time timing and leaderboard, and the cost was 5 bux.
Yep. We have that. Very nice app.


Originally Posted by dirty19
I just dont think you can get telemetry from the car to your pits in a cost effective way.
Possibly not, but it doesn't hurt to ask. At this point the app exists already that we need - but it only works "IN-CAR". We haven't used it yet, but I saw several teams using them. Now, it's just a matter of finding another app that allows you to view the display off the phone remotely. The first link I posted seems to only work if the phone is hooked up via USB to a laptop - which wouldn't work.

At the moment, we're using the standard gauges, plus analog gauges for oil pressure, water temp, voltage and boost. I wired up my MyChron gauge for lap times, but since it's running off battery power, it would shut off after 10 minutes (most kart races that I used it for were shorter than that so it was never an issue)
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 06:52 AM
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Default Re: Car to Pit Telemetry - what are you guys using?

I really was joking about the Motec stuff for Chumpcar. I mean, come on. McLaren???

Perhaps a cheap solution might be to buy a security camera system that works Wi-Fi with perhaps even a range booster, and put that in the car looking at the display of the data screen, and send via a wireless router to a laptop in the pits. Might only work while car is closing in on the pits, but would be very cheap. And that way you are just sending video and not data, so no special software needed.

Oh, and make sure to encrypt your data so your competitors don't find out your car's vitals and change their strategy!
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by descartesfool
I really was joking about the Motec stuff for Chumpcar. I mean, come on. McLaren??
I know.

Originally Posted by descartesfool
Oh, and make sure to encrypt your data so your competitors don't find out your car's vitals and change their strategy!
That will come up in my next thread after we get it working.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 07:25 AM
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I know there's a guy on the sandbox that's working on a wireless system so you can live stream video feeds from a GoPro. Then drivers can get tips over the radio from a coach that isn't in the car.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 08:33 AM
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RaceKeeper just announced a new system that will provide streaming to the pits, but it's not going to be cheap. A base RaceKeeper system is $1200.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Gustav129
I know there's a guy on the sandbox that's working on a wireless system so you can live stream video feeds from a GoPro. Then drivers can get tips over the radio from a coach that isn't in the car.
I transmit GoPro from my car to a TV trackside. Very cool and helpful.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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^^^ Please explain this sounds very neat.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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Using the benefits from my amateur radio license, I can broadcast video/audio low power transmitter on channel 47.

The standard GoPro outputs are fed to the transmitter, to onboard antenna, to TV antenna, to TV. Signal gets a little fuzzy behind hills.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 10:43 AM
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gopro hero2 i think has an add now to stream, they were streaming at the HC championships.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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check this out......

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...%5F520TVL.html

do a search on "FPV rc" mite give you some cheeper options on streaming video ....
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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Gesh. It's not taking long for ChumpCar to jump up in costs. lol
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