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possible to use 4 wire o2 on HX ECU?

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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 09:11 PM
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hi i was just wondering if it is possible to rewire the engine harness for a civic hx to make it work with a standard 4 wire oxygen sensor.

i did some research and theres some people who claim to make it work for a civic vx......

im just wondering if it could be done for an hx

i dont mind if it throws off some random codes for random stuff... as long as the gas saving portion of the o2 is working
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 11:17 PM
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no you will need to run the 5 wire o2 sensor for your 5 speed. The cvt does use a 4 wire but you would have to convert everything over over to that and it will be a huge pain and the cvt is not that good of a transmission and doesn't hold up well.

It's $358.96 at Majestic Honda and I think I remembered it being in the $330 range so it seems like it's gone up some. I remember someone on here awhile back taking a universal bosch and repining the connector to make it work.

RonJ might remember he seems to know almost everything but I think there is a problem with hx's for the o2 sensor code that if it's not the the actual o2 sensor then you need to check the wiring or replace the ecu, I am fairly certain that was it. I know the hx's were shipped out with a lot of bad ecu's and my 97 got replaced under their extended emissions warranty that was 10yr/150k miles.

Also another common problem is the exhaust manifold cracks at the #3 runner right around the o2 sensor allowing it to read different readings so you might want to remove the shield and check for any cracks.

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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 03:24 PM
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Default Re: possible to use 4 wire o2 on HX ECU?

what is the point of a 5-wire o2?
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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Default Re: possible to use 4 wire o2 on HX ECU?

Originally Posted by mikeybeg6
what is the point of a 5-wire o2?
It was wideband and offered more effective/efficient means of monitoring air/fuel ratio. It was found on VTEC-E engines such as 92-95 Civic VX, and 96-00 Civic HX.
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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gotcha, thanks alot
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 04:04 PM
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dam i was hoping i could rewire it to 4 wire like the old vx's.. i dont mind a check engine light for something little....

does anyone know what brand the OEM 5 wire hx ecu is? denso?
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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Nope Vtec E need the 5 wire wide band O2 because they are tuned and designed to run really lean safely to increase mpgs. I have a Hx and did a lot for research as to what tuning and option the D16Y5 had and there s nothing out there for it. Not ECU tuning, no cams, no turbo kits because of tuning. I just swapped out for a B18 and opened a new universe of tuning options. Even a D16Y8 or the non Vtec Y7 is better than the Y5 in terms of making more power. Or you could swap a Y8 head on, bolt on swap and use a Ex harness and ECU due to the 5 wire O2.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 04:24 AM
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There were 1 or 2 people on here that has had turbo hx's so it is possible just a big pain to do so. I know it's not cheap and I don't think I would trust a used one either, it's hard but I would just bite the bullet and get it from majestic since they are the cheapest I've found being new oem.

The dealer also replaced mine at one point under warranty.
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