Hey there has been crazy ideas out there before and this has been already done before but who wants to pay 300$ for a Full blowen fuel pump hanger just to have AN lines? NOT ME.now i am doing this on my car for the fact my hanger is rusted and no good now.yes i could get a junk yard stock hanger and order OEM new lines what not but im always one for doing it over the top and going out there to see better.I want to see if there is a market out there for this.

Feed line can be-AN-10 AN-8 AN-6

Return line can be-AN 10 AN - AN-6

I will post pics of the things i would use on my car to make this work.

list of things needed would be:

AN hose in whatever size your using (im going AN-6)

2 Hard line Adapters-(cut the stock flare off and re flare for hard tube adapters)

2 Straight fittings

2-3/8" NPT to -6AN flare (these will go in to the fuel pump hanger)

2-90 degree fittings

Im using this as an example!


These will be used on the stock fuel line going back to the tank


These are going to be used to connect the 2 lines feed and return


3/8NTP to 6AN


2-90 degree fitting will screw on the 6 an flare unions.


Can use this hose for the feed and return line


Please be respect full about this if you would like the idea and want one let me know,i am really just seeing how big the market is for this.i want to make the hanger single pump and duel pump.

if there is idea you want to change post it on here and i will see of it.

Thanks Dane

 

I don't really understand what you are asking. Of course there is a market if full blown makes them already?

 

^ Me neither, I don't get what you're asking. You're basically just recreating the full blown kit? Sure, it can be done for cheaper... but once you try to produce it and sell it on market you're going to have a hard time beating the price and quality of the FB setup.

 

yes full blown makes them i know that, didn't you read the pic?, i was using that as a example.I meaning who wants to pay 300$ just for the hanger? quoting "im going to have a hard time beating the price and quality of the FB setup" my quality will be just as the same as there's.How would it be different? pricing...that the point to this is to offer the fittings line per cut with ends already on there in the kit for under 300$,now to do this I would need a "hook up" witch i can do.

 

I get what your trying to say... i guess the only way to judge would be to see your finished product with step by step outlines to mock up including a parts list with the cost... only then can constructive criticism be made... if you can duplicate quality and craftsmanship for 1/3 or even half the price, you have my attention...


Just think who wouldve thought 5 years ago K series swaps would be able to run on the DBW (Drive by wire) setup? they are about to eliminate the need for K pro's shortly... further reducing the cost to drop in and run a K swap...so if you feel you can fabricate a product with the same craftsmanship im all ears.

FYI DBW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GCc7KOSQr0

 

i wasted my time and did this




i dont have a pic of it finished but it has 2 -6 feedsout the top and a -6 return that also comes out the top i can get a finish pic if u would like

u forgot to add to u list a y to bring ur lines together out of ur fuel pumps

 

i guess the question would be how to get the sending wires/relays to have both pumps engage at the same time... mounting them isnt difficult at all....


And yes that "Y" fitting is def needed which is like $55 by itself at most shops..

 

The wiring is easy I ran 2 10 gauge wires back to the relays and use the wire to for the stock pump on as my 12v switch to turn the relays on.

 

noting is a waste of time if you are doing it for you and like it then that is great,i like it you posted your idea up there,so how long did you make the hanger to mount the pump on there?

for as for as the Y for the fitting i am going to only being making this a one pump hanger,not many people need 2 pumps and they think they do that have no idea what there talking about.

question is Will i make a dual hanger setup down the road?

Yes i will and then i will look in to doing the Y setup

 

far as the wiring i would make this kick on just as you turn the key stock and stock plug in or if needed change the plugs and put that in the kit as well.

note to this,the hanger will be CAD made and CNC or water jet made

 

thanks for showing me this,this is really cool to see this from years ago.thanks for being a supporter of this!

 

maybe im miss understanding you but your trying to copy full blowns DUAL pump hanger and make it a single pump hanger just like the stock one people are removing??

 

can people not read on here? i am see and wanting to make a hanger for less money but yet just as good as full blowns hanger setup.i am wanting to make single and dual.i am using there as a draw up but change somethings,over all it will do the same thing as there but be less money.

 

Sounds good... I deff will get it. same quality less money? Sure why not?
Good luck on ur fabrication.

 

If i were you i would do the dual pump into the y fitting setup, as most people would likely fabricate to emulate that (Full Blown) ... whats interesting is once there is a bracket to house both pumps in a stock position the rest is wiring which is easier... so posting up pictures of the main bracket to house them & how to duplicate it step by step would help out everyone.. now u have me looking into turning my garage into a welding shop lol...

$300 pricetag is just what you pay the manufacturer to stay lazy.. if you look at what your actually getting, you would see this is something that should be acheivable at less cost.. once its known how to do it on your own, the market will force the vendors to lower the prices on their unit & im all for that...once it cost only $100 for a name brand kit they will get my business bc its close to what it would cost for me to fabricate it myself...just my .02

 

I am withtrying out new products and getting them at a discount but full blown charges what they charge for the simple reason that no one else has made one.Lets be honest here if you guys could duplicate it or improve it for less money and turn a profit what is stopping you?I am not doubting your abaility since I am in no way a fabricator but it just seems like what you guys are saying is that its eady and achievable but you guys just dont want to make the money.The other thing to consider is that full blown is a place people can trust because they have been around a while and have a business.Its not the same to purchase parts from someone who can dissapear overnight.Just my .02 cents but I am all for trying out new products from new people if they are made with the same detail as full blown.

 

its cool.. what i am getting at is fabricating one myself to USE it on my car not really interested in mass producing them to turn a profit... the only reason i havent done it is because i dont have the knowledge or the readily available tools to reproduce it. Hence why i said "Your paying to be lazy.."

 

alright now it sounds like we have some people on track! this is making it better! I will be getting some things around and going to start the mock up on it and also i am buying a FB hanger so i can look at that one and see were i want my changes made,make a few post pics and see what you guys think.kinda vote on them.now one thing i want to know is that if people want this as a kit? or just the hanger and you pick your fittings your self? i can sell it both ways really.what is a price range you guys are wanting to see?

I don't want to pay people to make my part like FB now im not saying they suck and the for sure do not by any means.there is a lot of people that can fab parts all day and never sell a one of them because they think people one like them but yet they could sell tons im sure.I have always want to fab my own parts.if i can pull the hanger off then next will be a fuel cell in stock place and uses the stock fill neck ect.I would also like to fab my own cross member so just to let you guys see my ideas

 

Yes i can read, sorry for questioning why someone would spend money to replace a stock single pump hanger only to replace it for another SINGLE pump hanger i dont care how "pretty" you make it, why would anyone spend money to replace something with the exact same thing only a little nicer and they will never see it? i wish you luck on your "adventure" but you might take a lesson in customer service cause no one wants to buy parts from a ******* that expects them to understand what they are thinking

 

a lot of people don't need dual pumps for there cars even if they think they do but that's another post for somewhere different.im sure there is people out there that would like to take there stock pump out and use AN lines on single or dual setup with a bigger pump.if i can make a hanger that is same quality as FB and less price then i might be able to do something here.i also would like to make a fuel cell to work with the hanger to go in the stock place of the car.some people dont want to cut in to there cars and i am one of them.i cut in to mine as it was and didn't want to but that is beside the point here.

if you have the money and want to spend it on FB then go for it,there a great place and make great things but the world is getting harded for people to make money and people don't have the budget to spend on there cars as they would like to.

 

So you're arguement is that people won't spring the $300 for the FB setup, but they'll spring ~$200 for a single setup.

Uh huh.

And on top of that, after they spring the money for your single bracket, then you're expecting them to switch to AN lines on top of that? Whaaaa? Regardless of what you do the pump still runs rubber lines off of the fuel pumps themselves, from there you're just converting to a much more expensive line for pretty much no reason, especially if you're using a single Walbro. The stock hardline is more than enough to move 600whp worth of fuel to the fuel rail, and people already make kits to convert the hardline to AN in the engine bay.

I see absolutley no market for your single bracket pump. Even for the people who spring for the PasswordJDM dry carbon fiber fuel pump and ashtray cover won't go for that.

Dual pumps will always have a market, if you can somehow offer a cheaper version than the FB setup that doesn't totally look like *** or fall apart in the tank, then more power to you.

 

I posted this to see if people would want a single setup but as it looks people don't and that is fine.so i will make a dual hanger then.like i said this will be CAD made and made in a water jet and CNC.im not welding noting and cutting it myself that is crap *** work.

Im not talking about taking the hole stock lines out.look at my post.there is 2 fitting in there to cut the stock flare off and you can use the 2 fittings on the stock hard line so they will be AN from there to the top of the pump.far as the rubber goes i will not be using rubber hose on the pump that will be also AN hose and in the kit per-cut for that tank.

like i have said in the other post i want this kit to be easy hook up but give me ideas on how people want it or would like to see it don't be a dick about it or down that im trying to make more parts out there for less money but yet the same quality in them.