No air in lines and still excessive play in brake pedal..... Still not that great after adjusting rear brakes..... Need some help please. Don't like my wife and daughter driving around w/ brakes like this.

 

What is play to you? The pedal wiggles from side to side? Does it go to low? Im guessing it brakes fine? Is it soft pedal hard pedal?

 

V-8 who, pedal play is that wiggle room before the master cylinder is actuated and it can be adjusted.
I'm guessing you are talking about a soft pedal. I would suggest replacing the master cylinder if you're positive you have no air in the system.

 

OP's talking about something like this:

 

If you are sure that there isn't any air in the system do this!
Before starting the car pump the brake pedal untill it will become hard.Hold the pedal down (even if it goes low) and note if the pedal sinks slowly.If no,make sure the front brakes don't have a seized up sliders.Post after.

 

what i mean by excessive play is that the pedal almost touches the floor before the brakes actually start to engage......

 

what are the sliders?

 

How are you bleeding your brakes?

 

Sliders are also known as slide pins that the caliper use on. They need to get grease up every time you get a brake job done; otherwise, it can rust up and seized. That will cause the front brakes to not be able to move.

 

bleeding them from the bleeding screws and starting at the brakes farthest from the master cylinder...... Plus i had them done by a local mechanic and he said that there is no air in the lines and that the rear brakes needs adjusted..... but the pedal is still traveling to the floor

 

does anyone have a picture of there proportioning valve in there 97 accord?

 

There is a possibility your BMC has an internal leak. There is a rubber seal/gasket inside of it that over time can wear down. When you push the break (moving the plunger) the brake fluid just seeps past the seal and back into the reservoir instead of through the lines. If you haven't replaced the BMC, I'd recommend picking up a new OEM Honda one (not a unknown condition reman). They are like $140 from the dealership. When you swap it out (really easy, ~20 mins) you can adjust the brake plunger for free play as well.

 

dont you have to bench bleed the mc?

 

Correct, you do need to bench bleed it before installation.

 

There's your problem.
Be it disc or drum, if the rear brakes are out of adjustment the pedal will be long. Do you have rear discs or drums? How is your parking brake handle? Does it go up all the way and still not properly holding the car? If discs and the hand brake was rarely used the adjusters may be seized requiring caliper rebuild/replacement. Drums adjusters don't seize per say, they wear out and can no longer ratchet or get a bit gummed up if not kept clean.

 

Then take it to a professional and stop playing mechanic.

 

wasn't this site created for the diy? to help people?

 

i replaced all brake lines in this a couple months ago and was wondering if somehow i got some lines switched at the proportioning valve...... if so could this cause my brake pedal to go to the floor?....... other than this i would say i may need a new mc......