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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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Default 2001 GSR making a "subaru growl" and lacks alot of power

My car started making a puttering noise all throught driving and sounds like a lawn mower now for some reason. the car is lacking alot of power. Can someone help me figure this out? it literally sounds like a subaru with a fart can. NOT GOOD!! HELP :[
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 09:18 PM
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First thing I'd check is the cat to see if it's clogged.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 12:40 AM
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Sounds like the motor isn't firing properly. Have you washed the engine bay recently? Water might've gotten into the spark plug holes, shorting out the plugs.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 07:32 AM
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um hate to say it but when my stock gsr sounded like a suburu it was because I cracked a ringland on the #3. You could see smoke coming out the breather tube going from valve cover to intake if you removed it. Go to harbor freight and buy a $20 compression test gauge.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 07:46 AM
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Im going to go out on a limb and give you the worst case scenario. You probably burnt an exhaust valve..... Same thing happened to my car. The transition was very obvious.


Do what I did:

Start the car at idle, pull out each spark plug one at a time from 1-4, and the car should try stall out. If there is no change in performance when you pull a spark plug wire out, and it stays the same, then that is the cylinder that is giving you grief. So it might either be:

The spark plug wire for that cylinder
The spark plug for that cylinder
The cap (in the dizzy) might be corroded for that cylinder
Bad injector for that cylinder
Bad piston rings
Bad exhaust valves

If you do a compression test, and you get SOLID results, and the compression doesnt change MUCH by adding oil and doing a wet test, then this ELIMINATES the possibility of it being the last 2.

If you stick a screwdriver inside your spark plug and bring it close to a ground and hear a spark, that eliminates the first 3

I don't know how to check injectors, I think you can just pull the spark plug out and smell it for unburnt fuel (if you have low compression that is).

Best of luck!




EDIT: Lets say you get a compression tester and these are your results:

180 180 30 180

Then you repeat the test WET and get this

190 190 30 190

This means that In cylinder 3, you either have a blown exhaust valve or a leaking headgasket, and the only way to tell would be to get a leakdown tester. You would need to put the 3rd cylinder at top-dead-center of compression stroke (Meaning that all the 4 valves are closed) and pump air in through the spark plug hole. Then while air is being pressurized inside, you just listen for any noise by your muffler. If you hear air, then your exhaust valves are burnt, if you don't hear air at the exhaust OR intake (highly doubt its intake), then you have a blown headgasket, which you could most likely see from white water vapor coming out of your exhaust.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 08:43 AM
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You could also just check the cam timing. Also not sure what I was thinking with the cat -- just super tired i guess...
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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Default Re: 2001 GSR making a "subaru growl" and lacks alot of power

Originally Posted by GagnarTheUnruly
You could also just check the cam timing. Also not sure what I was thinking with the cat -- just super tired i guess...
Ditto the above^^^

A clogged cat would result in ever decreasing power and a "shitty" sounding exhaust, not sure if I would describe it as "a subaru with a fart can".

If car starts and sounds "OK" when idling, but starts sounding like the Subaru with a fart can when RPMs go up, check the cat. 94
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 10:42 AM
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Default Re: 2001 GSR making a "subaru growl" and lacks alot of power

It's a cylinder or two not firing causing that sound a clogged cat would cause loos of power but not that noise and it wouldn't just happen out the blue. Check spark/compression
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 02:28 PM
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its not running on all cylinders.
before you start looking at cam timming and everything else. start easy and look at your spark plugs.... i had the electrode break off on my gsr one time and had to limp it home on 3 cylinders.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 02:38 PM
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Default Re: 2001 GSR making a "subaru growl" and lacks alot of power

Originally Posted by sebTeggy
Im going to go out on a limb and give you the worst case scenario. You probably burnt an exhaust valve..... Same thing happened to my car. The transition was very obvious.


Do what I did:

Start the car at idle, pull out each spark plug one at a time from 1-4, and the car should try stall out. If there is no change in performance when you pull a spark plug wire out, and it stays the same, then that is the cylinder that is giving you grief. So it might either be:

The spark plug wire for that cylinder
The spark plug for that cylinder
The cap (in the dizzy) might be corroded for that cylinder
Bad injector for that cylinder
Bad piston rings
Bad exhaust valves

If you do a compression test, and you get SOLID results, and the compression doesnt change MUCH by adding oil and doing a wet test, then this ELIMINATES the possibility of it being the last 2.

If you stick a screwdriver inside your spark plug and bring it close to a ground and hear a spark, that eliminates the first 3

I don't know how to check injectors, I think you can just pull the spark plug out and smell it for unburnt fuel (if you have low compression that is).

Best of luck!




EDIT: Lets say you get a compression tester and these are your results:

180 180 30 180

Then you repeat the test WET and get this

190 190 30 190

This means that In cylinder 3, you either have a blown exhaust valve or a leaking headgasket, and the only way to tell would be to get a leakdown tester. You would need to put the 3rd cylinder at top-dead-center of compression stroke (Meaning that all the 4 valves are closed) and pump air in through the spark plug hole. Then while air is being pressurized inside, you just listen for any noise by your muffler. If you hear air, then your exhaust valves are burnt, if you don't hear air at the exhaust OR intake (highly doubt its intake), then you have a blown headgasket, which you could most likely see from white water vapor coming out of your exhaust.
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 04:56 AM
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Default Re: 2001 GSR making a "subaru growl" and lacks alot of power

My car has been doing the exact same (Subaru) thing
since mid summer .
I changed the Spark plugs and no luck
I think it might be my wires.
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 05:48 AM
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Default Re: 2001 GSR making a "subaru growl" and lacks alot of power

Originally Posted by Jdm_JavieR
My car has been doing the exact same (Subaru) thing
since mid summer .
I changed the Spark plugs and no luck
I think it might be my wires.
my brother had the same problem in his EP3, he changed all the spark plugs, spark plug wires and o2 sensor (o2 sensor been messed up before the subaru growl) so it might be ur spark plug wires
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 06:24 AM
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Default Re: 2001 GSR making a "subaru growl" and lacks alot of power

Originally Posted by Honda_Nub
my brother had the same problem in his EP3, he changed all the spark plugs, spark plug wires and o2 sensor (o2 sensor been messed up before the subaru growl) so it might be ur spark plug wires
not sure how your brother changed spark plug wires on a car that doesn't have any.
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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Default Re: 2001 GSR making a "subaru growl" and lacks alot of power

one of the plug wires may have cam loose some how
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sebTeggy
I don't know how to check injectors, I think you can just pull the spark plug out and smell it for unburnt fuel (if you have low compression that is).

Best of luck!

Take a nice long screwdriver and put the tip up against the side of the injector. If you put your ear against the handle end you should be able to here the injector ticking.
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 09:21 AM
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Mine did that after I did my timing belt. Turned out both my cam gears were off which didn't even line up correctly behind the back plate. And it sounded like a boxer engine. Got it TDC and finally went away.
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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You guys are awsome! Will definetly try all your advice!!
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 01:33 PM
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Id say check the injectors it could be just that. Same thing happened to me last week after getting on it on a freeway entrance. I guess after transfering engine harness a few times i ended up missing a clip for one of my injectors and didnt care or notice when i threw it back in. Sounds like the same deal. I say simply make sure your injector plug ins are plugged in to the injectors. If not then id check the injectors them selves or plugs
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 01:34 PM
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Default Re: 2001 GSR making a "subaru growl" and lacks alot of power

Originally Posted by nus_dogg
Mine did that after I did my timing belt. Turned out both my cam gears were off which didn't even line up correctly behind the back plate. And it sounded like a boxer engine. Got it TDC and finally went away.
what do you mean by TDC ? im still learning haha
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by kyden
not sure how your brother changed spark plug wires on a car that doesn't have any.

coil plug or whatever u wanna call them
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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Default Re: 2001 GSR making a "subaru growl" and lacks alot of power

TDC = Top Dead Center
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DA Darkside
Id say check the injectors it could be just that. Same thing happened to me last week after getting on it on a freeway entrance. I guess after transfering engine harness a few times i ended up missing a clip for one of my injectors and didnt care or notice when i threw it back in. Sounds like the same deal. I say simply make sure your injector plug ins are plugged in to the injectors. If not then id check the injectors them selves or plugs
Unplugged injector throws a code doesn't it?
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 10:59 PM
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I checked my codes and they were all the same lol, im obd1 maybe obd2 would im not sure. im throwing codes for o2 and intake air temp, nothing else came up when my injector unplugged
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 08:10 PM
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Default Re: 2001 GSR making a "subaru growl" and lacks alot of power

When I had the same thing happen on my GSR, it turned out to be a valve that had blown a piece off its face. Happened while driving on the freeway cruising at around 70mph out of nowhere.
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 03:00 AM
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That is becoming more and more common as these cars get older. My b20 came like that.
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