im using f22b1 harness, dizzy, intake manifold and ecu on a 2001 f23a4 LONGBLOCK and the bitch wont fire - got orange spark(not good). i have checked everything for the past 3 weeks and still nothing. ive tried 3 distributors(all used) and still have orange spark. i smell fuel and have it at the rail(have aem/autometer gauge ).

funny thing is 2 plugs are always very wet while number 2 AND 3 are not very wet if at all. any ideas?? i have a new 255 fuel pump but i dont think thats it. should i put it in???? ive swapped main relays and nothing - same orange spark, i even tried to wire up the 4 wire sensor by the crank and it still gives me orange spark.

please help guys - ive gone all out on this car NEW EVERYTHING on my 5 lug swap and i hate to part it. i am about to start my k24/k20 drag car for the shop and i CANNOt figure this one out.

ive had almost 20 hondas since 1997 and i am stumped for once.. help!!!!

 

Do you have the CKP and TDC sensors wired from the distributor instead of the crank gears? I'm not 100% sure if the timing is the same for the OBD1 B1 distributor mounted sensors and the OBD2 F23 crank sensors. Something to check.

 

im using my b1 dizzy so all those sensors are in the dizzy so it should work that way. a few people i know have done it and it works that way without wiring the sensors from the crank to the ecu.

im going to try a brand new distributor tomorrow and see what happens. i am desperate to move this car due to my race car i need to build. any other crazy ideas please let me know

 

OK so if the timing is spot on then where you say the spark is orange all I can think of is the coil or the ignitor.

 

95 being obd1 u shouldnt have to wire those up only on obd2. l had that same issue. im obd2 and had to wire up ckp/tdc obd1 u can be free to do alot

 

well at least thats confirmation i dont have to wire it up. maybe its just the damn dizzy. trying a new one tomorrow

 

yea pretty sure thats issue just make sure u know which wires go where when u depin them good luck

 

depin?? as far as i know i dont have to depin anything. this isnt one of those type swaps. if i were using the obd2 manifold and distributor then yes i would be re-wiring/depinning but i am using ALL the stuff from the obd1 car and ONLY using the f23 longblock. should be plug and play

 

You do have to wire it if the dizzy is obd1 (meaning '94 or '95 year and not '96-97.

Because your long block is obd2. Also, distributors aren't exactly swappable.

 

ok?? see this is what i hate about h-t - two different answers. this swap has been done WITHOUT wiring that because those sensors are in the dizzy. my old longblock didnt have that **** on the crank its inside the dizzy so y would i wire it twice??

 

Unfortunately that's what you get with online forums sometimes.

Have you checked the wiring between the distributor coil, ICM and the ECU & power supply for proper voltage? How strong is your battery? How clean and tight is the G101 main ground to the intake manifold?

Just throwing out some electrical issues that you may or may not have tried already......sometimes it's the easy stuff that gets overlooked.

 

i hear u ghost. can u clarify G101?? (ima search real quick). but yes i have checked for voltage and checked map/tps etc for voltage as well - all is in spec. my battery is old but the starter cranks no prob and when it starts to die i hook up the benz or the truck to it and keep on going. and it sucks but you are 100% right. its some little bullshit right under my nose for the past 3 WEEKS!! long days homie, long days. thanks again ghost

 

G101 is the main engine wire harness ground. It is located at the drivers side end of the intake manifold upper plenum. Under one of the mounting screws for the vacuum tree.

 

damn, u know what?? that is def not hooked up.. i have a ground there for sure but its not the harness one.. i will see as soon as i get to the shop. (fingers crosssed). thanks again n again ghost

edit: just got to the shop and checked and yes its hooked up. :-( - so back to square one. shitty part is im so busy at work with customers cars that i wont even be able to work on it today

 

Ensure that it has good contact with bare metal, not aluminum that has oxidized or coated in dirt. That can make a big difference.

It's good to be busy though

 

well besides being attached to the intake manifold it just goes into the harness correct? it has a good connection. hopefully i will get to try the new distributor in the next few days. i have a swap n rbc install to finish for a customer and my usual random people stopping in so lets see what time allows. plus its the weekend and payday and the first of the month=welfare checks lol cha ching!!! thanks again ghost

 

I am doing a swope engine 99 accord to my 93 accord, so it's f23 in to a 93 accord. It looks like the motor mount is not lined up and the axles, do you have any information on how I can install it or what I can use or what parts I should get. Please contact me my email is Menaturbo@yahoo.com please soon because I already have the motor out of the car and thats my only transportation. Thanks

 

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