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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 11:17 AM
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Default D17A1 vs D17A2

Pardon my ignorance but what id the difference between a D17A1 and a D17 A2? and how do i know which one i got?
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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You will hear this a lot:

A1 - Non-Vtech
A2 - Vtech

In America only the EX came with the A2, not sure of other markets. But, the cover for the coil packs on my car says Vtech on it.
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wittynamessuck
You will hear this a lot:

A1 - Non-Vtech
A2 - Vtech

In America only the EX came with the A2, not sure of other markets. But, the cover for the coil packs on my car says Vtech on it.
Vtech is a phone manufacturer, bud.

VTEC is the variable valve timing system Honda employs on some of their engines.

As for the difference between the two engine types, you're looking at a small power gain from having a VTEC engine, as it has a second set of valves to allow for more air/fuel consumption (which results in improved performance figures). On the D17 platform, you're not going to see much noticeable gains, as its not an engine that differs much between non-VTEC to VTEC versions.
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 01:17 PM
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I'm looking to buy an '04-'05 Civic (manual). Don't know if I should shoot for an LX (A1) or EX (A2). I need to find out what else the EX gets you over the LX. Doesn't sound like this particular VTEC version is as big of an improvement over the non-VTEC model as in the previous years huh?
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave88LX
I'm looking to buy an '04-'05 Civic (manual). Don't know if I should shoot for an LX (A1) or EX (A2). I need to find out what else the EX gets you over the LX. Doesn't sound like this particular VTEC version is as big of an improvement over the non-VTEC model as in the previous years huh?

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-2001-2005-78/faqs-guidelines-read-before-posting-2101211/

Chassis Specifications and Features: Link
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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I dunno, that looks like an awful lot of information to dig through.
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave88LX
I dunno, that looks like an awful lot of information to dig through.
You asked for it.
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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The major difference between LX and EX is that the EX gets 15 more hp in VTEC mode and has a moonroof . Which is really nice on a good day or night, just my opinion.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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EX also comes with the chrome trim kit. It is chrome around the gauges in the cluster and on the air vents. Also everything in the EX is power. Mirror, windows and locks.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 04:47 PM
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Really!? I didn't know Honda still had crank windows in anything that late model.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kenbo21
EX also comes with the chrome trim kit. It is chrome around the gauges in the cluster and on the air vents. Also everything in the EX is power. Mirror, windows and locks.
thank god my EX didnt come with a chrome kit. i would hate my care if it did.

Just go for the EX. you can do more upgrades with less work/money put into it, as well.... such as the sway bars. hah
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by EM2abe
thank god my EX didnt come with a chrome kit. i would hate my care if it did.
Same here. I wish I had factory leather though.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 08:09 PM
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Really!? I didn't know Honda still had crank windows in anything that late model.
... ahem ...

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45395794
Originally Posted by lazlong
Really! Wow, never seen a 7th gen with window cranks. I'm serious.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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^^ Good call. Who knows, maybe I'll forget again in another 6 months. lol
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