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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 07:10 PM
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Default LSVTEC cams advice......

Goal, want 200+hp range
currently at 192hp 139lbs

my set-up

b16 head
ctr complete valvetrain , cams/dual valves springs/retainers
3 angle valve job
blox im
passwordjdm thermal im gasket
aem tru cam gear
310cc
walbro 255
password ***** intake
replica hytech header
aem fuel rail

stock ls block
ctr pistons
arp head bolts
oem headgasket

b16 tranny
2.5" colletor from hytech header down to 2.25" hks catback exhaust

My question is, is it worth upgrading to skunk2 pro stage 2 cams or something similair like blox, crower, toda, buddy club etc...compare to my ctr cams to push me extra 20+ hp?
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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That compression ratio + large cams can equal some issues. I would personally stick to something a tad more mild and if you do decide to run Pro 2's you should clay the motor/ check clearances.
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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So you just wanna break the 200 whp mark?
I'd start with ditching the jdm whale dick ***** password intake and get a straight 3" cold air intake with a BPI velocity stack/filter.
You didnt mention if your tuned or not. That will get you over 200 whp by itself AND give you more power "under the curve" which is more important anyways...
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 08:23 PM
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So you just wanna break the 200 whp mark?
I'd start with ditching the jdm whale dick ***** password intake and get a straight 3" cold air intake with a BPI velocity stack/filter.
You didnt mention if your tuned or not. That will get you over 200 whp by itself AND give you more power "under the curve" which is more important anyways...
THIS and ditch the POS blox IM for a performer x...I see 210+whp in the making...
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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yeah that too, And the 2.25 exhaust also isn't helping...
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 08:33 PM
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Damn I read right over that....this motor has LOTS of potential tied up in someweat crappy parts. I too am cringing thinking about pro 2's with the CTR domes though....

OP was that dynod on a mustang, dynojet or dynapak?
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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I agree with ditching the whale *****, upgrading to a 3 inch exhaust if you don't mind some noise, and ditching the blox IM.

Hell the first 2 alone would probably get you to 200 on the same dyno you made 192 on.
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 09:20 PM
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THIS and ditch the POS blox IM for a performer x...I see 210+whp in the making...
What about skunk2 pro series im?

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Damn I read right over that....this motor has LOTS of potential tied up in someweat crappy parts. I too am cringing thinking about pro 2's with the CTR domes though....

OP was that dynod on a mustang, dynojet or dynapak?
Thanks, forgot what dyno jet it was on but it was only for front wheel drive so maybe that might tell wha dyno machine it is.

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So you just wanna break the 200 whp mark?
I'd start with ditching the jdm whale dick ***** password intake and get a straight 3" cold air intake with a BPI velocity stack/filter.
You didnt mention if your tuned or not. That will get you over 200 whp by itself AND give you more power "under the curve" which is more important anyways...
Yea i was tuned on chrome, you really think if I ditch the whale intake and do a 3" intake + stack/filter will do? Sorry to sound like a noob but what is stack/filter? lol

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I agree with ditching the whale *****, upgrading to a 3 inch exhaust if you don't mind some noise, and ditching the blox IM.

Hell the first 2 alone would probably get you to 200 on the same dyno you made 192 on.
Yea I was thinking about going out all 2.5" but then I'll have to get rid of my hks exhaust ;( guess might have to sacrifice it

Also I have a edelbrock 65mm tb, should i go bigger?
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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What about skunk2 pro series im?
NO! there have been numerous tests and the PX blows all IM's out of the water on 1.8's. Match it with your TB you already have and youre in business.
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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Skunk2 IM is fine and so is the 2.5" exhaust. For just 200whp, a 3" is beyond being necessary. And yes I have 2.5 and 3" on both my hondas. Ain't needed. But for god's sake that CTR/LS block/Pro2 cam combo is seriously asking for trouble. big trouble.
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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I agree 3 inch is not needed, but it's been proven to work.
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 93egSLEEPER
NO! there have been numerous tests and the PX blows all IM's out of the water on 1.8's. Match it with your TB you already have and youre in business.
match it with my edelbrock 65mm tb, how much hp you think I will get out of this?

Trying to spend my cash wisely for atleast 20hp gain.

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Skunk2 IM is fine and so is the 2.5" exhaust. For just 200whp, a 3" is beyond being necessary. And yes I have 2.5 and 3" on both my hondas. Ain't needed. But for god's sake that CTR/LS block/Pro2 cam combo is seriously asking for trouble. big trouble.
Thanks, and why is that?

Funny thing is my tuner recommended me the skunk2 stage 2 if I wanted to make the 200hp range.

I'm going to call him tomorrow.
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 11:40 PM
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The Tuner 2 series should be great for this motor.
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 11:52 PM
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match it with my edelbrock 65mm tb, how much hp you think I will get out of this?

Trying to spend my cash wisely for atleast 20hp gain.



Thanks, and why is that?

Funny thing is my tuner recommended me the skunk2 stage 2 if I wanted to make the 200hp range.

I'm going to call him tomorrow.
When the tuner refers to the stage 2 he means the stage 2 of the tuner series, not the pro series. S2T2 is a way less agressive cam than S2P2.
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 11:58 PM
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ive seen 5 whp on the velocity stack intake alone...with that and a 2.5 or 2.75 inch exhaust you should see 200whp...but cams will defitnetly open that engine up...mikeyspec made 235+ with blox cs i think the jun3 replicas...and a similar setup..
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velocity stack http://www.bpinitiatives.com/filterkits.php

2.5 exhaust kit (weld it up yourself)http://vrsexhaust.com/TUBING_KITS/HO.../honda_tk.html

I'd start with this...

You better clay your engine and know your PTV, PTH, and VTV clearances before going with bigger cams. I bet things are already pretty tight in there as it is.
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3" CAI with velocity stack
2.5'' exhaust
Skunk2 Stage 2 Tuner Series Camshafts

Seems like the right combination to take you over 200 whp. This setup has been tried and tested many times.
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Originally Posted by mouab18c1
The Tuner 2 series should be great for this motor.
Originally Posted by GagnarTheUnruly
When the tuner refers to the stage 2 he means the stage 2 of the tuner series, not the pro series. S2T2 is a way less agressive cam than S2P2.
You guys are correct, he meant the tuner series not the pro. Now it makes better sense.
It should have a part number mark on each cams to indicate skunk2 cams correct? The reason I ask is a local guy has one for sale for half the price.

Originally Posted by PyroProblem
velocity stack http://www.bpinitiatives.com/filterkits.php

2.5 exhaust kit (weld it up yourself)http://vrsexhaust.com/TUBING_KITS/HO.../honda_tk.html

I'd start with this...

You better clay your engine and know your PTV, PTH, and VTV clearances before going with bigger cams. I bet things are already pretty tight in there as it is.
What is PTV, PTH, and VTV ? I'll double check with my guy at the shop.

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3" CAI with velocity stack
2.5'' exhaust
Skunk2 Stage 2 Tuner Series Camshafts

Seems like the right combination to take you over 200 whp. This setup has been tried and tested many times.
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Originally Posted by PyroProblem
velocity stack http://www.bpinitiatives.com/filterkits.php

2.5 exhaust kit (weld it up yourself)http://vrsexhaust.com/TUBING_KITS/HO.../honda_tk.html

I'd start with this...

You better clay your engine and know your PTV, PTH, and VTV clearances before going with bigger cams. I bet things are already pretty tight in there as it is.
So these exhaust pipe come mendrel bend to correct year and make, so all it needs is to be welded?
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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It's currently tuned on chrome, you guys think its worth to spend $500 to upgrade to hondata s300 ?
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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not to jack your thread but i've been wondering the same exact thing except i have a blue printed balanced block and crank,eagle h beam connecting rods and je pistons which i think is 10.2 to 1 cr.i've been wondering what head set up to go with before i put it together.
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PtV = piston to valve
PtH = piston to head
VtV = valve to valve

as in contact. Gotta make sure you have enough clearance for each relationship that you don't get contact between the above pairs of components.

If you or your tuner is capable of using Crome, there's probably no need to change your EMS.
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GagnarTheUnruly
PtV = piston to valve
PtH = piston to head
VtV = valve to valve

as in contact. Gotta make sure you have enough clearance for each relationship that you don't get contact between the above pairs of components.

If you or your tuner is capable of using Crome, there's probably no need to change your EMS.
Thanks,

What brand like crower, blox close to s2 stage 2 tuner cams
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I got some crower stg 3 cams brand new to sell wink wink and i am located in MI
but you would have to clay your motor like every one else said
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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i hear buddy club spec 4s, sk2 stg 2 , blox bs ,and endyn bumpstiks...are all base on jun3 which are some of the best cams ever made...but they all have their own tweaks that mak them a lil diff except for blox which are carbon copys of the sk2...
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