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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 08:47 PM
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Right now I have a 94 EG with a crappy single cam and I've been wanting to get a Vtec engine, and everyone is telling me "go B-series, cuz there lighter and there fast."

So my question is which B-series engine is lightest and fastest? Because i hear a lot of different things from different people and really i just want a fast B-series engine that's light. LOL

so give me all your opinions please!
Old Aug 30, 2011 | 09:15 PM
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That whole "lighter" doesn't really have much to do with anything. You need to do some research man and you came to the right place.
Old Aug 30, 2011 | 09:22 PM
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Before you do ANYTHING, you need to figure out what exactly you want to do with your car/motor. N/a or Turbo? how much power do you want? Your money situation?

Everyone goes B-series... yea they are awesome, reliable and everywhere... but it's over-rated to a point.

Even tho I'd still get one.
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well pretty much i wanna know which B-series has power and is reliable.
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If you really want lightweight you'd get a k-series. A b-series is about 15lbs heavier than a d-series. And an h series is ~20lbs heavier.

Though is 20lbs even worth writing home about if you gain 100hp and 80ft/lb of torque with an h2b swap?

Most people need to lose 20lbs.

Basically, quit considering engine weight and start worrying about engine performance. And don't be loyal to b-series. H/K/F/B are all perfectly fine motors each with their various advantages.
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OP, sounds like you really need to open up Notepad and start writing down all the engines you find that will swap into your car. Then write the pros and cons for each based on YOUR tastes.

I'd start with info such as:
Engine code (years/models available)
Power / torque
What's needed to swap it (remember emissions!)

The weight of engines in these cars is pretty negligible, especially for a street car. I wouldn't even concern myself with it unless you have an extremely lightweight car and you're worried too much weight up front could actually cause safety issues while driving. I don't foresee this as a likely issue for you.
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OP, sounds like you really need to open up Notepad and start writing down all the engines you find that will swap into your car. Then write the pros and cons for each based on YOUR tastes.

I'd start with info such as:
Engine code (years/models available)
Power / torque
What's needed to swap it (remember emissions!)

The weight of engines in these cars is pretty negligible, especially for a street car. I wouldn't even concern myself with it unless you have an extremely lightweight car and you're worried too much weight up front could actually cause safety issues while driving. I don't foresee this as a likely issue for you.
like i said, it isnt so much the weight, its the power i want, i mean i do want a light weight engine but power is what im going for, and ya ive heard K20's are beasts
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Originally Posted by chrisxmichael
like i said, it isnt so much the weight, its the power i want, i mean i do want a light weight engine but power is what im going for, and ya ive heard K20's are beasts
So then start making a list to find what best suits your wants, needs and pocketbook.

I decided on a '00 GSR for my '98 Civic coupe, but I don't see a need to use that engine in my '88 HF. I'll probably be happy enough with a B16 in the daily CRX. I wouldn't ever dream of putting a B16A into my Civic.
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Originally Posted by chrisxmichael
like i said, it isnt so much the weight, its the power i want, i mean i do want a light weight engine but power is what im going for, and ya ive heard K20's are beasts
If power is all you care about than a b series ain't gonna do **** for you. Start looking for a chassis and a ls1.
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If power is all you care about than a b series ain't gonna do **** for you. Start looking for a chassis and a ls1.
A 1999 Trans am is a really nice car. My uncles could manage 29mpg on the highway. (65mph)

Never really liked American made cars till I drove that thing. I didn't think it was particularly pretty, but it was really nice and hauled ***.
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Yea I just threw a lt1 in one with a GM hot cam kit at my intern.

**** was a pretty budget build and still hauled ***.

Didn't cost much more than what I've done to my hatch and would walk me in 4th n 5th easy
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If power is all you care about than a b series ain't gonna do **** for you. Start looking for a chassis and a ls1.
well i do want power but also it is a daily driver i forgot to mention that, like i want the power for just in case i run into someone on the streets and they wanna go a few runs, or if i decide to go to the strip one day.

I understand you all want me to look into all this its just like i said i was told from ppl that have other EG6's that B-series is the way to go cuz of weight, power, and reliability. I myself honestly don't know much about cars (just things here and there) so im just trying to clear things up.

and from what ive been looking at im really fond of the B18c1.
what do you all think?
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Originally Posted by chrisxmichael
well i do want power but also it is a daily driver i forgot to mention that, like i want the power for just in case i run into someone on the streets and they wanna go a few runs, or if i decide to go to the strip one day.

I understand you all want me to look into all this its just like i said i was told from ppl that have other EG6's that B-series is the way to go cuz of weight, power, and reliability. I myself honestly don't know much about cars (just things here and there) so im just trying to clear things up.

and from what ive been looking at im really fond of the B18c1.
what do you all think?
This tells me we should stop even remotely trying to answer the questions you posed in the first post.
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This tells me we should stop even remotely trying to answer the questions you posed in the first post.
hey im not looking to be bashed on about not knowing about engines or about car, i mean at one point im sure you were clueless about this stuff.

im just looking at my options and trying to get other peoples opinions like i said "in my first post"
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i want the power for just in case i run into someone on the streets and they wanna go a few runs, or if i decide to go to the strip one day.
You don't need to be driving if that is your idea of driving.

I've had 1 friend killed by street racing, and several others injured by people driving stupid on the street.


Take it to the track. If you can't afford to go to the track when you want to you can't afford a multi-thousand dollar swap and car hobby.

This hobby is expensive, track days pale in comparison in terms of cost.

I assume you're young. Most people don't assume so much and take so much for hearsay without being young. I was that way once, certainly.

You need to simmer down and prioritize things before you do anything. For one, re-think how you treat your car. The streets and the safety of others are not yours to compromise.

PS: A stock b-series is still going to be relatively slow. Faster than a d-series but you won't be breaking 14sec 1/4 miles with a stock b-series. Maybe with a gutted car and a b18c5.
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Originally Posted by chrisxmichael
hey im not looking to be bashed on about not knowing about engines or about car, i mean at one point im sure you were clueless about this stuff.

im just looking at my options and trying to get other peoples opinions like i said "in my first post"
I wouldn't ever bash on someone for not knowing cars. You missed my point.

I don't want to help you now because you want to f***ing street race. Street racing doesn't only run the risk of hurting the people racing.
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I wouldn't ever bash on someone for not knowing cars. You missed my point.

I don't want to help you now because you want to f***ing street race. Street racing doesn't only run the risk of hurting the people racing.
Like I said. I and many people know people who have been hurt or killed either participating or being innocent drivers involved in a street race.

My friend who was killed was clipped by a street racing civic and his Tahoe flipped 4 times on I-20. Guy was never found.
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PS: A stock b-series is still going to be relatively slow. Faster than a d-series but you won't be breaking 14sec 1/4 miles with a stock b-series. Maybe with a gutted car and a b18c5.

well i dont plan on having my car stock, i do want to add some stuff to it, and money isnt a problem for me, lol and ya i know having cars as a hobby is very expensive especially when Mugen is my favorite brand as of right now.

and BTW i am a bit young im 23 yrs, but idk the way i look at street racing is, dont make a stupid action, like racing in traffic, i usually would race on an empty street (which there are plenty here) some streets here dont have car go on them for hours (well certain streets) but ya i would like to take my car to he track everyday but damn are some of the cars here fast LOL
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Justify it all you want. Driving like an idiot on roads that don't belong to you is immoral and illegal. My friend who was killed was hit at 4:30am on what I would assume is a pretty empty section of I-20 outside of Atlanta.

You can't guarantee the streets being empty. Do yourself a favor, and since money isn't an issue you should go to a drag strip instead.

If money is so good, invest $500-1000/month into a solid index fund and buy/build a race track in a few years based on your assets and good credit.
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well i do want power but also it is a daily driver i forgot to mention that, like i want the power for just in case i run into someone on the streets and they wanna go a few runs, or if i decide to go to the strip one day.

I understand you all want me to look into all this its just like i said i was told from ppl that have other EG6's that B-series is the way to go cuz of weight, power, and reliability. I myself honestly don't know much about cars (just things here and there) so im just trying to clear things up.

and from what ive been looking at im really fond of the B18c1.
what do you all think?
All bullshit aside, big horsepower honda engine tend to be unreliable unless massive money is put into it and done right.

You'll make double the power in a ls engine with a simple cam and boltons
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I think a gsr motor will be just fine for you. You are thinking too deeply into it..
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racing on a non sanctioned open road is DUMB. can you see a deer,turtle, pothole, racoon, drunk person randomly going across the road when your doin a 120 to be cool in a race? splatter cakes. its always dumb.

for 23 you definately don't think things through very well. i've known since 18 that street racing is dumb. is it fun? of course. but far to dangerous.

b20vtec/b16a trans ls 5th. call it a day.
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yeah i ran a 14.5 in a stock gsr with a b16 head in a EG hatchback and yes it was stock besides a exhaust (still stock header/intake manifold and a super short ebay intake) And compared to my DD the thing hauled *** haha. My DD is a d15b7 eg8 (4 door) and I just ran that at the track and it ran 17.3 @81mph getting 42mpg highway all day.
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Originally Posted by Libertariat
Justify it all you want. Driving like an idiot on roads that don't belong to you is immoral and illegal. My friend who was killed was hit at 4:30am on what I would assume is a pretty empty section of I-20 outside of Atlanta.

You can't guarantee the streets being empty. Do yourself a favor, and since money isn't an issue you should go to a drag strip instead.

If money is so good, invest $500-1000/month into a solid index fund and buy/build a race track in a few years based on your assets and good credit.
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well i dont plan on having my car stock, i do want to add some stuff to it, and money isnt a problem for me, lol and ya i know having cars as a hobby is very expensive especially when Mugen is my favorite brand as of right now.

and BTW i am a bit young im 23 yrs, but idk the way i look at street racing is, dont make a stupid action, like racing in traffic, i usually would race on an empty street (which there are plenty here) some streets here dont have car go on them for hours (well certain streets) but ya i would like to take my car to he track everyday but damn are some of the cars here fast LOL
Originally Posted by Libertariat
Justify it all you want. Driving like an idiot on roads that don't belong to you is immoral and illegal. My friend who was killed was hit at 4:30am on what I would assume is a pretty empty section of I-20 outside of Atlanta.

You can't guarantee the streets being empty. Do yourself a favor, and since money isn't an issue you should go to a drag strip instead.

If money is so good, invest $500-1000/month into a solid index fund and buy/build a race track in a few years based on your assets and good credit.
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racing on a non sanctioned open road is DUMB. can you see a deer,turtle, pothole, racoon, drunk person randomly going across the road when your doin a 120 to be cool in a race? splatter cakes. its always dumb.

for 23 you definately don't think things through very well. i've known since 18 that street racing is dumb. is it fun? of course. but far to dangerous.

b20vtec/b16a trans ls 5th. call it a day.
I used to be a home health aid. At the time I was 21 and one of my youngest clients was the same age, off by only a month or so. He was one of a set of identical twins. 6'2 or so, both lively happy teenagers in high school.

My client was into cars. He had a Camaro and used to race it on his way home. He lived in a small town in the country, so he had a good eight mile stretch or so where he could just play.

One day he decided to race a friend of his. My client went off the side of the road and straight into a telephone pole. No one else was hurt.

Or were they?

I met his brother later. He's a hulking man and about to be married to a beautiful girl. My client is stuck in a bed, in what is basically a waking coma. He's totally aware of everything going on. He knows I'm there washing him, he knows I need to put him onto the lift and get him into his chair, which he can't even control on his own. He knows what is on television. He knows his dad hung that naked lady on the ceiling above my client's bed just to help spice up the place even though his mom was VERY against it.

He's totally aware that his mom quit her job so she can stay home to take care of him full time. I was just relief for a day or two each morning. Dad was barely ever home. His brother had moved out by this time too.

Using the suction tube down his throat still hurts. And judging by the way he would silently cry, knowing everything that is going on hurts an incredible amount.

I'm not the type to cry over just anything. I don't like to cry. But holy ****, did I bawl like a baby once I got to my car the first time I met him.

Street racing DOES NOT just hurt the people who race. You don't always die, but f*** you're going to wish you had if something like this happens to you.
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