Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

A/C Clutch is frozen. Replace Condenser??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 14, 2011 | 04:26 PM
  #1  
picthis1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Springfield, MO
Default A/C Clutch is frozen. Replace Condenser??

1995 Civic LX 4-dr.

A/C clutch bearing was noisy for a couple of weeks (not really bad), then it froze up and now, you can barely turn it by hand.

I'm replacing the compressor after my friend reclaims the 'freon' with his machine.

My question is: "How do you tell if metal fragments are in the system?"

What warrants replacing the condenser, drier, evap? Any or all?

I appreciate your advice and comments.

-william
Reply
Old Aug 14, 2011 | 04:43 PM
  #2  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: A/C Clutch is frozen. Replace Condenser??

Is the pulley bearing just bad? If so, there's no need to replace the entire compressor.

Reply
Old Aug 14, 2011 | 04:55 PM
  #3  
picthis1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Springfield, MO
Default Re: A/C Clutch is frozen. Replace Condenser??

Pulley bearing was grumbling. I knew it was going out.

Now, compressor is really hard to turn even though I removed the armature plate and rotor pulley.

Plus, the outer lip of the coil is corroded and wire shows through.
Reply
Old Aug 14, 2011 | 05:00 PM
  #4  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: A/C Clutch is frozen. Replace Condenser??

The coil and clutch set are replaceable without removing the compressor from the car, if you have the right tools and patience. I'm trying to figure out whether the compressor had an internal failure or just a clutch set/coil failure. Not sure yet.
Reply
Old Aug 14, 2011 | 05:06 PM
  #5  
picthis1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Springfield, MO
Default Re: A/C Clutch is frozen. Replace Condenser??

If that bearing seized on the pulley, then it would be making life hard on the internal parts of the compressor.

My first thought was replacing clutch and/or coil. I was going to do this 2 weeks ago but I discovered the 92 civic compressors that I have were different and the pulley wouldn't fit on the 95.
Reply
Old Aug 14, 2011 | 05:09 PM
  #6  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: A/C Clutch is frozen. Replace Condenser??

Originally Posted by picthis1
If that bearing seized on the pulley, then it would be making life hard on the internal parts of the compressor.

I'm not sure this^ is true.
Reply
Old Aug 14, 2011 | 05:42 PM
  #7  
exb18c1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 286
Likes: 0
From: Montreal,Canada
Default Re: A/C Clutch is frozen. Replace Condenser??

I think you better take the compressor out and remove the clutch and coil.Then take a piece of rubber mat (or something similar) around the shaft ,grab it with wise grips and try to turn it over.It doesn't take long and your buddy has an A/C machine.It will give you and us the idea about the damage.
Reply
Old Aug 14, 2011 | 06:49 PM
  #8  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: A/C Clutch is frozen. Replace Condenser??

Originally Posted by exb18c1
I think you better take the compressor out and remove the clutch and coil.Then take a piece of rubber mat (or something similar) around the shaft ,grab it with wise grips and try to turn it over.It doesn't take long and your buddy has an A/C machine.It will give you and us the idea about the damage.
You may be able to do this without removing the compressor. This could possibly save you from replacing the receiver/dryer and recharging the system.
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2011 | 07:11 AM
  #9  
exb18c1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 286
Likes: 0
From: Montreal,Canada
Default Re: A/C Clutch is frozen. Replace Condenser??

Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
You may be able to do this without removing the compressor. This could possibly save you from replacing the receiver/dryer and recharging the system.
Sure,if you have enough room.But I think that you will have less resistance to rotation if the system will be empty, no?
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2011 | 09:22 AM
  #10  
picthis1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Springfield, MO
Default Re: A/C Clutch is frozen. Replace Condenser??

After replacing the compressor, I took the old one apart. It has a series of spiral metal blades. Those were broken.

Very interesting.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2011 | 09:41 AM
  #11  
strategy400's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,127
Likes: 3
From: Victorville, CA, USA
Default Re: A/C Clutch is frozen. Replace Condenser??

Can you take/post pictures of the broken scroll blades? Was the compressor slowing the car when it engaged? Mine is doing that and slowly losing cooling to the point the A/C is no longer usable (figures, right before a 110 degree heat wave).

I have a '95 del sol S. My A/C clutch has been noisy recently, emitting a loud click when engaging. Do I have a clutch problem or a compressor problem? My car slows when it engages and goes faster when it disengages (more than normally).

I have an R134a manifold/gauge set. How can I use this to diagnose a possible compressor problem? What readings should I be looking for on the gauges pressure-wise?

To the OP - did you replace any other parts besides the compressor and is your system performing well now?
Reply
Old Sep 3, 2011 | 09:06 PM
  #12  
picthis1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Springfield, MO
Default Re: A/C Clutch is frozen. Replace Condenser??

I haven't figured out how to load photos yet. Yes, the engine was having to work harder (the clutch bearing stuff was making it harder to turn). Then, it finally seized. Didn't lose the freon though.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
TitaniumCoder47
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
2
Aug 10, 2018 05:19 PM
BobBeird
Honda CR-V & Element
5
May 15, 2015 12:22 AM
fragmare
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
5
Jun 25, 2013 04:54 AM
jabroni95gsr
Tech / Misc
12
Dec 9, 2004 04:41 PM
crxgator
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
3
Jun 15, 2004 11:05 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:36 AM.