Just bought some si rear discs to put onto my eg. The trail arm bushings are pretty much almost gone lol. So I was wondering if anyone has the energy susp. bushings and how they feel on the road. Also chime in if you have a different brand.

 

I have them, people say they bind, people say they fall apart... I have had mine for almost a year with over 8,000 miles, they look brand new, and if they were to crumble within the next week I would buy them again. Such a tight and precise feeling.

 

I've heard differing opinions and I don't have any personal experience with ES bushings, but I can recommend hard rubber bushings. I like my PIC/SUJA1 bushings and HardRace also makes a proven product. You'll pay a little more for hard rubber, but you'll be buying bushings that will last 10+ years in harsh conditions.

 

I use ES in RTA of an Integra. The stated downside is their limiting of motion, and being damaged by much motion. If you use a stiffer suspension and lower, then not as much motion is demanded. Perhaps ES in an otherwise normal, OEM, suspension is a problem. I think that the ride is tight, though probably tight with any new RTA bushings. The more poly bushings you put in, the harsher the bumps in the road.

 

get hard race or pic rubber bushings ... ploy sucks

 

So we start another poly vs rubber bushing thread. Get new bushings if your are about "gone" and you will probably like any.

 

Not this again!

ANY RTA bushings that replaces your warn/shot/ crumbling old RTA bushing will show an improvment.

Rubber doesn't tend to hold up longer, and is generally easier becuase it doesn't need to be cleaner or lubed. You install and leave it alone. But with poly you don't have to clock your bushings. With rubber you do.

As much as people say one is cheaper then other, it is somewhat true.

if you price the PIC or hardrace kit, aproxx $250 replaces almost everybushing in the car. $150 or so with ES, gets you half or less.

Overall if your wanting to do the whole car, rubber is a better buy than ES. Just the RTA's? ES, 40 bucks shipped. Half what PIC RTA bushings cost.

 

whats this RTA? lol

 

Rear trailing arm. Whatever route you take, I think you'll enjoy your new bushings

 

wow i should have caught that one lol. i think im just gonna get the ES bushings, i found a set on ebay for only $40

 

Energy suspension parts.com sells them for $25 +shipping!

Don't just jump striaght to ebay.It doesn't alsways have the best prices.

 

I have Progress poly RTA bushings. Harder than ES and good price.

http://www.progressauto.com/products.../productID/274

A nightmare to install, but worth it.

 

My bushings slid right in. I used a block of wood, a lot of grease, a jack, and my friends truck. I jacked the trailing arm with the bushing aligned up against the bottom of his truck and pop right in.

 

The Progress bushing requires that you reuse the original collar and inner mounting plat thingy. Why, I have no idea!

 

So does ES. progress normally makes some pretty good ****! So i guess reuseing all of the OE hardware isn't a big deal, as everyone says it is?

 

I didn't know that. Seems like a lot of trouble...

 

It is lol

Getting the OEM metal peices clean enough to install the ES bushing isn't very easy.

 

i was thinking about buying the set that already comes with that inner rod thingy

 

Do you have a link? The one I am aware of is on the energysuspension website, and it's a rip off.

At that point you might as well buy PIC/Hardrace.

 

You will be doing something like this...

Basically you spend a day with a propane torch and huff burning rubber then spend some time with a dremel. The good news is once you do it future replacement is a breeze lol.

 

Did not know that ES came with the "inner rod thingy." Energysuspensionparts.com had good prices as mentioned. Cleaning up the inner rod was easy is comparison to getting the bushing cleaned out of the sleeve. It was mostly tedious.

 

Sorry, It was prothane. But it is on the ES site

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com....asp?prod=8304

 

heres the link. are you saying this one is a rip off?

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...asp?prod=8304#

also, whats with the brass ring? the other set doesnt come with one.

 

lol that's what I just posted. I didn't know that's what you were talking about.

The brass ring makes it so this one can be simply pressed in and pressed out. There would be no burning the old bushing out with this one.
You would simply hammer your old out, hammer then new one it.

If you take a look at the OEM, or other rubber bushings, you will see they have same ring around them.


I would never pay that kind of money for a poly bushing. $40 sure, $110, no way. That is getting into the Mugen hardrubber bushing territory.

 

well my car is just gonna be used for the drag strip and highway pulls. no corner carving/auto crossing stuff, so maybe ill be ok with the ES set??