hi there well i got a few question and hopefully somebody can help .
well first i have a 91 base civic so it didn't come with cig lighter and i was going to put one on but here's the think i don't see no plugs for the lighter and i found 4 wires that we're connected to anything , and i got a free Gm cig lighter and i got it with the plug and stuff and i was wondering if it would be able to work? and will i need a fuse for the cig lighter relay?
where do these go to??



can i use this?



and last question i snapped a shot of fuses and fo 17 (cig lighter relay) has a 15 instead of a 10 might that be a reason it may not work? if you have a wrong fuses amp on a slot what could happen?

 

nobody?

 

you are to match the fuse for the part specified. and if you dont have the correct fuse the safest alternative is to try a lower rated fuse. fuses are designed to blow once they have a certain amperage run thru them. hence why its safer to use a smaller one if you dont have the correct value for it. using a larger value fuse could destroy things as they wont blow at the specified amperage they were meant for. and as for wiring it up the best thing you can do is to download a service manual for it, and follow the schematics and wire it in yourself.

 

that 4 wire plug has a ground, 12v constant (or switched, depending on year), and wires for illuminating the cig lighter ring and ash tray.

For example, I installed an Integra center console that has an ashtray light and cig lighter that lights up... plug and play.
The Si's have it I believe as well. DX and base models only have power/ground for the cig lighter.

 

well my car is a base model so what wire do you think is the the cig lighter out of solid red , red/black , black or the white ?

 

white should be 12v. black is ground.

 

awesome and the other two would be for the light right?

 

right on. red for power, red/blk for ground on light. it's a real tiny bulb.

 

hmm i'ma try it out tomorrow bro

 

[QUOTE=Canadian_EF;45796944]right on. red for power, red/blk for ground on light. it's a real tiny bulb.[/Q

it didn't work , it blew my fuse

 

lets see your wiring. i'll try and help.

 

it probably blew a fuse because it was too small of a rated fuse for it. and another thing you didnt mention is the 91s have had relays installed so when you turn the key to on the relay snaps on and provides power for the plug. came in my crx, piece of plastic busted to hold it to the frame and id kick it everytime id press on the gas pedal so i cut the bitch out and wired it normally. i like hondas innovation but that was a tad tarded.

 

 

 

no it was at the correct amp , relay ?

 

can you break this down for me?

 

if you've got the wht/grn and ground going to the cig plug, you shouldn't blow a fuse.
if you've got two lights in series with the red/blk and solid red, you shouldn't blow a fuse.
the relay that is being explained is purely just so that the cig lighter turns off when the key is turned off. something is shorting out somewhere if you're still blowing a fuse.
DO NOT connect the red wire to the power wire of the cig lighter... it's for dash lights (i.e CIG ILLUMINATION and ASH TRAY ILLUMINATION)
I've worked on an 88, 89, 90 and 91. 90-91 has that relay... you shouldn't be having this much issue... there must be a short.
(red wire from cig lighter to wht/grn wire, ground to ground)
if you aren't using cig lighter illumination or ash tray light, don't connect the red or red/blk to anything.

 

thanks i'ma try it out right now

 

it worked , thanks bro!

 

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and to break it down for you dude. its a wiremap. schematic technically. theirs thousands of wires in the car and this is like a map to make it easier for you. battery (+) is obviously the batterys positive terminal. then the simple lines are wires. going to the 20A squiggly line, thats a 20A fuse. and the schematic is the pin diagram for the relay. 2 terminals are around a magnetic coil (terminals C and D on the relay block) and the other 2 are the Actual switch. and the switch at the top is the ignition key so the ignitions always live. its just on or off depending on the key position (they have a schematic for that too). when you turn the key on it energizes one side of the coil. and since thats already grounded it completes the connection, the coil pulls the switch and connects the power to the cig lighter. turn the key off. relay releases the switch and the cig lighter loses its power. if you have a interest in learning it itd be a good thing to learn. if you can read those and interpret them and how they will work you can create anything you want electronicswise. weather it be led upgrades in your car or a security device. who knows. id be glad to help ya anytime man