11" Dual-Piston Nissan Brake Upgrade on/for a Honda
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Ever heard of this? Off of what? Where are the brake upgrade GURU's!!!???
http://madfablab.com/product_info.ph...products_id=40
http://madfablab.com/product_info.ph...products_id=40
Yea that kit could be put together for less.
Legend GS calipers
Mini cooper rotors
Integra/ex/si spindles
Using the mini cooper rotors allow you to use the legend calipers without shaving the brake bracket.
Legend GS calipers
Mini cooper rotors
Integra/ex/si spindles
Using the mini cooper rotors allow you to use the legend calipers without shaving the brake bracket.
LMAO that company is FULL OF ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! those rotors are special made for them lmao. Those are mini cooper rotors.
Look through this thread. https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...=734560&page=5
Rockauto.com
Legend calipers $65 each
Mini Rotors $25-$60 each
At most $250 without pads and without shipping.
Look through this thread. https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...=734560&page=5
Rockauto.com
Legend calipers $65 each
Mini Rotors $25-$60 each
At most $250 without pads and without shipping.
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Interga RS Front knuckles
2007 Mini Cooper rotors
94-95 Legend GS calipers
94-95 Legend pads
NO MODDING...BOLTS RIGHT UP
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANKS
2007 Mini Cooper rotors
94-95 Legend GS calipers
94-95 Legend pads
NO MODDING...BOLTS RIGHT UP
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANKS
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I talked to BrakeExpert & he is saying this stuff won't work. I'm so confused!!!!! Here's a message I got from him off another board:
"I know you wanted GS calipers without spending a lot of money, well sorry but you can't. They aren't that common and you cannot get GS brakes onto a VX civic under 200$, its not doable.
First thing, sell the Mini Cooper rotors, I don't know who told you they'd fit.
Here's what you can do:
Do the Type-R front upgrade, and then remove the calipers for the GS ones. Thats how its done.
The Type-R upgrade is sold for 290$ and it has the ITR caliper bodies, the caliper brackets (these must be machined to fit) and 11.1" Prelude VTEC rotors redrilled to 4x100. The good news is that this setup bolts onto the Integra knuckles (or any 4x100 spindle that came with 10.3" brakes, the Civic EXs from 88-00, the 99-00 Si, and the 90-01 Integras, but not DX, LX, CX, HX, HF or VX civics).
The other good news is that I do machine work and I sell this setup. Without the ITR caliper bodies I could do 240$, and then you'd go hunt down some GS caliper bodies.
The caliper BRACKETS that come with the GS calipers are not used, and if they were, youd still need them machined down.
There are no bolt on rotors unless you want to go find the MG discs from europe, but even so the cheapest I've found was 180$ shipped for a pair, whereas I sell replacement Prelude VTEC discs (redrilled) for around 110$ a pair brand new, 130$ for drilled and or slotted.
For CRXs, ALL the front knuckles had the smaller brakes, this setup doesn't work. You will need 90-91 Civic EX knuckles. The downfall is cost and rarity. I have a set of those 90-91 knuckles for sale for 150$ cause I paid 220$ for em loaded.
But to answer your question, there are NO 4x100 11" Honda brakes that bolt on, all of them require modding. If you do the 11" setup, the milled brackets are a one time thing, and the redrilled discs can always be had from me (I own my machine, I'm not a corporation), or from fastbrakes, or from a local machine shop to redrill 96 Prelude VTEC rotors off the shelf.
Sorry if this made things more confused, I understand your frustration. Its how I started out and its why I now make brake upgrades.
BrakeExpert"
"I know you wanted GS calipers without spending a lot of money, well sorry but you can't. They aren't that common and you cannot get GS brakes onto a VX civic under 200$, its not doable.
First thing, sell the Mini Cooper rotors, I don't know who told you they'd fit.
Here's what you can do:
Do the Type-R front upgrade, and then remove the calipers for the GS ones. Thats how its done.
The Type-R upgrade is sold for 290$ and it has the ITR caliper bodies, the caliper brackets (these must be machined to fit) and 11.1" Prelude VTEC rotors redrilled to 4x100. The good news is that this setup bolts onto the Integra knuckles (or any 4x100 spindle that came with 10.3" brakes, the Civic EXs from 88-00, the 99-00 Si, and the 90-01 Integras, but not DX, LX, CX, HX, HF or VX civics).
The other good news is that I do machine work and I sell this setup. Without the ITR caliper bodies I could do 240$, and then you'd go hunt down some GS caliper bodies.
The caliper BRACKETS that come with the GS calipers are not used, and if they were, youd still need them machined down.
There are no bolt on rotors unless you want to go find the MG discs from europe, but even so the cheapest I've found was 180$ shipped for a pair, whereas I sell replacement Prelude VTEC discs (redrilled) for around 110$ a pair brand new, 130$ for drilled and or slotted.
For CRXs, ALL the front knuckles had the smaller brakes, this setup doesn't work. You will need 90-91 Civic EX knuckles. The downfall is cost and rarity. I have a set of those 90-91 knuckles for sale for 150$ cause I paid 220$ for em loaded.
But to answer your question, there are NO 4x100 11" Honda brakes that bolt on, all of them require modding. If you do the 11" setup, the milled brackets are a one time thing, and the redrilled discs can always be had from me (I own my machine, I'm not a corporation), or from fastbrakes, or from a local machine shop to redrill 96 Prelude VTEC rotors off the shelf.
Sorry if this made things more confused, I understand your frustration. Its how I started out and its why I now make brake upgrades.
BrakeExpert"
Read through the thread I linked you to. It has been done. You will need integra knuckles and 23mm caliper brackets. The mini cooper rotors you need are 280mm rotors. Read the thread its all in there. It has pics of the guy running it!!!!!!!
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LMAO that company is FULL OF ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! those rotors are special made for them lmao. Those are mini cooper rotors.
Look through this thread. https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...=734560&page=5
Rockauto.com
Legend calipers $65 each
Mini Rotors $25-$60 each
At most $250 without pads and without shipping.
Look through this thread. https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...=734560&page=5
Rockauto.com
Legend calipers $65 each
Mini Rotors $25-$60 each
At most $250 without pads and without shipping.
They also take a $350 OBX lsd, use a $40 bolt/washer upgrade kit, and charge an extra $200 for that. LOL
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Anyway I got my EG fingered out. (with help from you, Thanks!) Now I'm trying to do the same brake swap onto my CRX w/o using DA knuckles. I don't like how they move the wheel!!! SO now the question is EF EX or EF SI.....
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I say I'm trying to do the same setup w/o ever doing it...(my fault) I just mean that now that I know it will work on my EG I want to do it on my EF... Confused????
if anybodyss trying to do this i have an extra set...calipers nd brackets....i want to kno is theyre any reason not to reuse the legend rotors tht originally come with this setup....my first setup came with both brake calipers,brackets, and slotted rotors
Mini cooper rotor won't work. I did mine , it's 3mm short. The edge of mini cooper rotor are curve. If the edge straight then still u need 2mm to overlape the pads. The 280mm rotors are just not big enough for the pads. There will be problem later on when the pads worn out. Pads will be higher than rotor. That the reason why HONDA made legend/98-up accord V6 , prelude vtec 93-96 (rotors 281.8 mm 282mm). For those guy out there take my 3 cents. Use Prelude rotors and redrill save you lot of headache , mill the 23t bracket down 3.2mm that all.
....ALL this write up on how to do this upgrade, and each one confuses me..maybe im just SSSSLLLLOOOOWWWW...but i'm having a hard time trying understand. Heres my deal...I have a 92 Prelude S..with an H22A, not that it matters i guess, and i'm trying to upgrade my rotors to 11'. I have both 23t caliper brackets off of a 99 Acura CL along with the calipers themselves. My HUBS are stock type S Prelude ones and i'm ABSOLUTELY NOT SURE WHAT HUBS TO USE and WHICH ROTORS will need RE-DRILLING, or even if the 07 MINI COOPER S or REGULAR rotors will fit with no issues...make it SIMPLE for me please ppl..theres alot of OPINIONS out there on how it should be done, but someone break it down..which plenty of you have attempted, and so i say IM SSSLLLOOOWWWW!!! thanks to all of you again for the inputs.
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