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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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i want to repaint my 97 civic coupe milano red (r81) all over again because i have a 2000 front end and i want to paint he black side moldings and the black side skirts, and the black license plate holder all red as well. But i heard trying to paint the side moldings will be impossible to match with the paint on my car. please ask questions if u dont understand i really need help. thanks!

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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rawrjaay
i want to repaint my 97 civic coupe milano red (r81) all over again because i have a 2000 front end and i want to paint he black side moldings and the black side skirts, and the black license plate holder all red as well. But i heard trying to paint the side moldings will be impossible to match with the paint on my car. please ask questions if u dont understand i really need help. thanks!

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Why couldn't you color match your moldings? because it's black? That's what primer is for... Makes the car one color. If it's a coupe a gallon would do it, a hatch, a little less. 3 qts maybe...
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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Why couldn't you color match your moldings? because it's black? That's what primer is for... Makes the car one color. If it's a coupe a gallon would do it, a hatch, a little less. 3 qts maybe...

ok so your telling me, if i primered the 2000 silver front end im putting on my car, primered the two black moldings on each side, and the side skirts on each side, and the si spoiler, the front si lip, and primered the black back license plate holder,

my car will look one color in the end? milano red?



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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 10:30 PM
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oh and also, if i primered the black windows on the side, would it work as well?
sorry i just believed that if i painted all these parts separate, they would be brighter and look newer than the cars paint.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 11:00 PM
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not unless your paint is really faded, it should look pretty close, most paint shops have machines that can match the color up almost perfectly, and from the pics yours looks good anyways
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 11:17 PM
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not unless your paint is really faded, it should look pretty close, most paint shops have machines that can match the color up almost perfectly, and from the pics yours looks good anyways
yes like i said, thats why i think it wont work because i want my whole car red, so people told me to just paint the black parts red, but it doesnt seem like it would work right and match the rest of my car without looking like different colors....
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 08:52 AM
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yes like i said, thats why i think it wont work because i want my whole car red, so people told me to just paint the black parts red, but it doesnt seem like it would work right and match the rest of my car without looking like different colors....
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you would need 1/2 gallon for all that small stuff... Prime it and paint it R81 and you shouldnt be able to tell a difference... 1 shade at MOST...
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 09:00 AM
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Just remember how ever much paint you get make sure to get the same amount for your mid coat, i just dont think it looks the same with out it. Thats why i ended up switching to R97 Roma red cause its a bc/cc not a tri-coat.
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 01:43 AM
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Default Re: how much paint for a 1997 civic?

i had a quick question

what if i wanted to paint my whole car electron blue pearl?
would that be hard to do since my car is already red?

check it out!:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-acura-28/my-bros-electron-blue-pearl-paint-job-civic-lots-pics-1344871/
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rawrjaay
i had a quick question

what if i wanted to paint my whole car electron blue pearl?
would that be hard to do since my car is already red?

check it out!:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1344871

No it wont be too hard. Remember the majority of work for painting is all prep man. Dont forget about your door jams. Nothing is worse than getting into a blue car with red door jams
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 07:17 AM
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Default Re: how much paint for a 1997 civic?

Originally Posted by rawrjaay
i had a quick question

what if i wanted to paint my whole car electron blue pearl?
would that be hard to do since my car is already red?

check it out!:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1344871
Again... Thats what primer is for... You dont just paint over red...
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 10:56 AM
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Again... Thats what primer is for... You dont just paint over red...
ok can you please explain to me what primer exactly is?
i just want to make sure im on the same page as you my friend.
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 12:06 PM
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ok can you please explain to me what primer exactly is?
i just want to make sure im on the same page as you my friend.
If you accidentally sand down to bare metal, the primer will adhere to it and give you a paintable surface. basecoat will NOT adhere to bare metal... Primer is an adhering paint that will give you a solid color to paint over and also fill in any small blemishes on the surface... The primer must be block sanded to a ~400 grit surface to have the paint correctly adhere to it...
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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Primer is a paint product that allows finishing paint to adhere much better than if it were used alone. For this purpose, primer is designed to adhere to surfaces and to form a binding layer that is better prepared to receive the paint. Because primers do not need to be engineered to have durable, finished surfaces, they can instead be engineered to have improved filling and binding properties with the material underneath. Sometimes, this is achieved with specific chemistry, as in the case of aluminum primer, but more often, this is achieved through controlling the primer's physical properties such as porosity, tackiness, and hygroscopy.

In practice, primer is often used when painting many kinds of porous materials, such as concrete and especially wood (see detailed description below). Priming is mandatory if the material is not water resistant and will be exposed to the elements. Priming gypsum board (drywall) is also standard practice with new construction because it seals the wall and aids in preventing mold. Primers can also be used for dirty surfaces that, for some reason, cannot be cleaned, or before painting light colors over existing dark colors.

Primers can usually be tinted to a close match with the color of the finishing paint. If the finishing paint is a deep color, tinting the primer can reduce the number of layers of finishing paint that are necessary for good uniformity across the painted surface.




Some metals, such as untreated aluminium, require a primer; others may not. A primer designed for metal is still highly recommended if a part is to be exposed to moisture. Once water seeps through to the bare metal, oxidation will begin (plain steel will simply rust). Metal primers might contain additional materials to protect against corrosion, such as sacrificial zinc.

Metal hydroxides/oxides do not provide a solid surface for the paint to adhere to, and paint will come off in large flakes. Using a primer will provide extra insurance against such a scenario. An additional reason for using a primer on metal could be the poor condition of the surface. A steel part can be rusty, for example. Of course, the best solution is to thoroughly clean the metal, but when this is not a viable option, special kinds of primers can be used that chemically convert rust to the solid metal salts. And even though such surface is still lacking in comparison to the shiny clean metal, it is yet much better than weak, porous rust.

Painting and gluing aluminum is especially important in the aircraft industry, which uses toxic zinc chromate primers and chromating to add the necessary adhesion properties.

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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Builda'Teg_92
Primer is a paint product that allows finishing paint to adhere much better than if it were used alone. For this purpose, primer is designed to adhere to surfaces and to form a binding layer that is better prepared to receive the paint. Because primers do not need to be engineered to have durable, finished surfaces, they can instead be engineered to have improved filling and binding properties with the material underneath. Sometimes, this is achieved with specific chemistry, as in the case of aluminum primer, but more often, this is achieved through controlling the primer's physical properties such as porosity, tackiness, and hygroscopy.

In practice, primer is often used when painting many kinds of porous materials, such as concrete and especially wood (see detailed description below). Priming is mandatory if the material is not water resistant and will be exposed to the elements. Priming gypsum board (drywall) is also standard practice with new construction because it seals the wall and aids in preventing mold. Primers can also be used for dirty surfaces that, for some reason, cannot be cleaned, or before painting light colors over existing dark colors.

Primers can usually be tinted to a close match with the color of the finishing paint. If the finishing paint is a deep color, tinting the primer can reduce the number of layers of finishing paint that are necessary for good uniformity across the painted surface.




Some metals, such as untreated aluminium, require a primer; others may not. A primer designed for metal is still highly recommended if a part is to be exposed to moisture. Once water seeps through to the bare metal, oxidation will begin (plain steel will simply rust). Metal primers might contain additional materials to protect against corrosion, such as sacrificial zinc.

Metal hydroxides/oxides do not provide a solid surface for the paint to adhere to, and paint will come off in large flakes. Using a primer will provide extra insurance against such a scenario. An additional reason for using a primer on metal could be the poor condition of the surface. A steel part can be rusty, for example. Of course, the best solution is to thoroughly clean the metal, but when this is not a viable option, special kinds of primers can be used that chemically convert rust to the solid metal salts. And even though such surface is still lacking in comparison to the shiny clean metal, it is yet much better than weak, porous rust.

Painting and gluing aluminum is especially important in the aircraft industry, which uses toxic zinc chromate primers and chromating to add the necessary adhesion properties.

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