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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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Default Tokico HP Kit vs. Eibach Pro-System Kit (Shock/spring combo's)

I have less than $500 I can spend on a simple new suspension kit for my car. I want to lower it roughly 1.5" and have a very smooth reliable ride quality. This is my daily driver, not my toy car.

I'd like to hear from people using either kit, but would definately like to hear from those who have used both.

Which is a better quality kit? (From experience, not "he-said/she-said" ****)



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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 12:42 PM
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i have an eibach pro kit on a hatch and its not the best for looks because its not really low but it does ride great and keeps all driveability. i have integra sway bars on my hatch with the prokit and it handels really good. never used the tokico but its a decent brand so im sure either one would be fine
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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blues suck. period.

i run the sport system from eibach same as what you posted just sportlines instead. ride is great handling is great. i have no complaints. ride height is a 1 finger gap up front and a half out back.
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 01:31 PM
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You have all the money you want to spend on a suspension kit. You just don't have the patience to save the money buy a quality kit. Don't complain about not having enough money, you're just impatient. I'm getting tired of all this nonsense about $X limits on parts. When the limit is merely X time with regard to how impatient the consumer is to do something to their car. I make $9/hour and can still manage to pay rent, save for retirement, and buy volks/recaros and good quality suspension like progress or Koni/GC. I love my progress setup but I know in my heart that I could have gotten Koni/GC and wish I had for the extra $200. Lifetime warranty and a wider selection of rates says it all. On the bright side the $600 progress setup has been an invaluable lesson learner and I plan to campaign their product for entry level enthusiasts who aren't patient enough to save money for higher end kits or can't justify it for their needs.

Tokico blues are OEM replacements. You're defeating the purpose of lowering your car on aftermarket shocks if you're even considering an OEM replacement that isn't designed with valving appropriated to stiffer rates and reduced suspension travel.

For the money you could spend on tokico illuminas you can get Koni yellows. Lifetime warranty.

The eibach pro kit system is made for people like you, cheap, just want a drop, and, namely, impatient. i've seen pretty mixed reviews/results from people on here. Springs are also never going to lower your car evenly. With a coilover setup you can set the height for the driver at all four corners with some patience. My driver's side of my car is ~.25" higher than me passengers side when the car is empty, it's perfectly even on all four corners with me in the car. Each car will vary due to many factors from the condition of ball joints, bushings, tie rods, etc.

You could save another $100 and get progress CS-II like I've got, I've tracked them 6 times now and put 7,000 miles on them and they've been great:


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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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lol You're an idiot. Its not a matter of patience or not saving enough money at all. Its a matter of needing my shocks replaced, and not wanting to dump useless money into a daily driver. I have a Track car that gets all my money and PLENTY of Legit parts, and lots of track time LOL








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So lets talk about me being cheap, and impatient again...please?

My civic will NEVER see a track, hell it only get redline shifted maybe once every few months lol. I drive it to and from work, and to the girls place. Its not a performance car. I currently have 4 blown shocks, and desire to replace them. And figured while in there I might as well make it look a little nicer, and drop it a little bit. My main concern is replacing 4 broken pieces with 4 new pieces, so that it doesnt ride like dick anymore.

Have fun tracking your 160hp civic.
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 03:55 PM
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Then I've got 4 OEM shocks I'll sell you for $70 shipped. Great condition.

Or you could buy stuff that won't blow, like Koni Yellows or Progress CS-II on a mild drop.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 02:44 AM
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OP, didn't you made a thread in the Civic forum? You have a '92 Civic si, etc....
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 05:03 AM
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I did. And I do have a '94 Civic Si as my daily driver. Thats why Im posting here. Because I need affordable decent shocks for my Civic.

I just felt the need to defend myself when I was accused of being Cheap and "impatient".

EK-Forever. I think you misunderstand what Im doing here. Youre frustrated with my purchasing decisions because I dont want to buy exactly what you have, or what you think I should buy. You dont have to understand. You just need to be open to the idea that there are people on this earth who do not think the exact same as you do. This is my car, and I know my budget because my motor for my racecar is currently at the Machine shop getting a full build. Thats why I DONT WANT to spend any more than about 450 on doing this. Its not a matter of cant, its a matter of dont want to, because its a civic. You need to understand that. I have priorities.

So all I was trying to figure out was whether there was a significant difference between the two options listed here. I narrowed it down to those two, because I have already done my research on kits, based on my desired spending budget.

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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 05:55 AM
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If you never have intentions of going lower than 1.5" the eibach kit is the way to go. That's what it's designed for and Eibach makes the best springs in the world.

My only concern is that for not much more money you can get much better products with a lot more flexibility if you do decide you want to start autocrossing or something in a year or two. Running ST class FWD is a lot of fun.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 06:02 AM
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Thanks, thats what I was looking for.

However, the Civic will never get autocrossed. I have a caged, 325whp RWD, full big brake F&R, full coilovers, and every piece of suspension replaced track car that will get all those duties.

The civic is used to go Mtn biking, climbing, and commuting. And road trips. Thats it
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 09:38 AM
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Also considering the Sportline System kit because a local buddy of mine found it for $414 brand new shipped.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 11:50 AM
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I use my Integra for pretty much the same purposes you do. I bought it with the Tokico set you are looking at and IMO it isn't that bad, but I also haven't driven on stock Integra suspension. There are a lot of decent shock/spring combos for around $500, it just all depends on how much you want to drop your car.

I have a set of Tein H-Techs and Koni STR.Ts that I'm probably going to replace the Tokicos with. If I didn't already have these parts laying around (I bought them for my previous G3 Integra that was totaled before I had a chance to install them) I wouldn't bother replacing the Tokicos....but the H-Tech/Koni combo is brand new and comes with a life time warranty.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ZenkiS14
Thanks, thats what I was looking for.

However, the Civic will never get autocrossed. I have a caged, 325whp RWD, full big brake F&R, full coilovers, and every piece of suspension replaced track car that will get all those duties.

The civic is used to go Mtn biking, climbing, and commuting. And road trips. Thats it
Then don't look into the sportline system in this case...you'd be better off w/a DD system.

I use the Eibach Pro-System, good kit for a DD car. See sig for pics/images/etc...
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ZenkiS14
Thanks, thats what I was looking for.

However, the Civic will never get autocrossed. I have a caged, 325whp RWD, full big brake F&R, full coilovers, and every piece of suspension replaced track car that will get all those duties.

The civic is used to go Mtn biking, climbing, and commuting. And road trips. Thats it
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Then don't look into the sportline system in this case...you'd be better off w/a DD system.

I use the Eibach Pro-System, good kit for a DD car. See sig for pics/images/etc...
It doesn't necassarily mean his car is going off-road. Sportsline is low enough for looks and high enough to clear the streets or mountain pavements.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ZenkiS14
Also considering the Sportline System kit because a local buddy of mine found it for $414 brand new shipped.
Get this.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rhymeshark916
It doesn't necassarily mean his car is going off-road. Sportsline is low enough for looks and high enough to clear the streets or mountain pavements.
I know the OP is not going "off-roading," however those springs are prone to bottoming out and not necessarily conducive to his lifestyle based on his previous post(s).

The OP mentions he's looking for a "very smooth reliable ride quality" on a "daily driver" If he's "Mtn biking, climbing, and commuting. And road trips" then the most logical choice for him is the Pro Kit.

I'm not being bias, as I've owned both...however, it appears that the pro kit would best suite the op's lifestyle and needs of a daily.

Both setups are excellent, I've owned both...but the Pro-System just seems more along this guys' lifestyle.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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How do you bottom out with a 1.5" drop with decent shocks? I have the same springs on my Integra with 155k mileaged shocks. It certainly would of rode alot better with new rubbers and upgraded shocks.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 03:52 PM
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How do you bottom out with a 1.5" drop with decent shocks? I have the same springs on my Integra with 155k mileaged shocks. It certainly would of rode alot better with new rubbers and upgraded shocks.
Couple a 1.5" drop (which is not always 1.5"..sometimes lower, sometimes higher,) which have rates of 310F/275R (which are pretty soft) and it makes bottoming out pretty easy...surely not as easy as it is to bottom out S.Techs (235F/140R) which are notorious for that.

I'm not trying to say that its a common occurrence and I have plenty of love for Eibach, however I've bottomed out in my Pro Kit a couple times and thought to my self "oh ****, I'm almost stock ride height." Anything is possible...more importantly, I was just trying to keep what the OP had in mind which was a daily driver.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 04:56 AM
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hmmm.....Thanks guys. I think I might end up going with the Pro-Kit System.

anyone have any pics of their EG/EH hatches on Pro-Kit springs?
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