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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 10:05 AM
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i got a 97 coupe (LHD). i was driving her last night n the clutch just went soft so i pulled over looked under where the clutch pedal is n i seen that was leaking then i popped the hood to check the clutch fluid that was almost done so i top it up but the clutch is still soft n i had to top it back up this morning now i know she has to have a leak but where n what should i do?????
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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prob the clutch master cylinder.
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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You may need a new clutch slave cylinder. Pull the little rubber boot back and look in at the plunger on the slave cyl. Is it wet? If so, there you go. There isn't a whole lot to the clutch system. Should be pretty easy to narrow down leaks..
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dk=gsr
prob the clutch master cylinder.
word could it be repaired r is it best to buy a new one ??
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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Buy a new one. Slaves are cheap, so might as well get one of those while you're at it. Did mine already. Just takes a while to bleed the new system.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 12:03 AM
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Yes, its a pain to bleed the system, replace the master and slave at the same time - you will minimize your headaches this way. Nothing sucks more than getting one side working, then having it break again in a few weeks because the other side of the system was getting ready to go. They always seem to follow each other like that.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 04:45 AM
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Does the clutch fluid share the same resevoir as the brake fluid?
Originally Posted by EK squid
i got a 97 coupe (LHD). i was driving her last night n the clutch just went soft so i pulled over looked under where the clutch pedal is n i seen that was leaking then i popped the hood to check the clutch fluid that was almost done so i top it up but the clutch is still soft n i had to top it back up this morning now i know she has to have a leak but where n what should i do?????
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by EK squid
i got a 97 coupe (LHD). i was driving her last night n the clutch just went soft so i pulled over looked under where the clutch pedal is n i seen that was leaking then i popped the hood to check the clutch fluid that was almost done so i top it up but the clutch is still soft n i had to top it back up this morning now i know she has to have a leak but where n what should i do?????
Holy run-on sentence batman.

Ok... First pull back the rubber boot on the slave to look for a leak. If no leaks are detected, inspect around the inside and outside of the firewall by the MC. This same thing happened to me just about a month ago. I started with the SC, blead the system, and still no improvments. You're prob going to need a clutch.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by EK squid
i got a 97 coupe (LHD). i was driving her last night n the clutch just went soft so i pulled over looked under where the clutch pedal is n i seen that was leaking then i popped the hood to check the clutch fluid that was almost done so i top it up but the clutch is still soft n i had to top it back up this morning now i know she has to have a leak but where n what should i do?????

You have your answer. If it's leaking from the CMC rod then your CMC is definitely wacked. Even if you top back the oil in the CMC reservoir, if air has been able to get in the system, the pedal won't be good until you re-bleed your system.
One good way to bleed a system:

600ml empty bottle of coke
drill a 1/4 hole in the cap
Put a 1/4 clear hose all the way down to the bottle
fill the bottle with brake fluid (as long as the end of the hose is submerge in fluid)
Plug the other end of the hose in the bleeder valve on the cylinder
Top up brake fluid in the CMC reservoir
Make sure clutch pedal is all the way up
Open bleeder valve
Push clutch pedal down
Close bleeder valve
Pull clutch pedal up
Make sure you always have brake fluid in the CMC reservoir because if air goes back in the system, you are doing it wrong.
repeat until no more air is coming out of the bleeder valve thru the clear hose and once you have a clutch
Friend's help is a must

Here the price for a CMC and a slave cylinder. You have different options:

CMC (Clutch master cylinder)

OmniPower USA quicklutch : 160$ app. (less stroke and more bore of the internal cylinder)
Honda OEM: 150$
Auto parts: 90$

Slave cylinder

Honda OEM: 120$
Auto parts: 70$

I changed both CMC and slave 2 weeks ago on my EJ. I chosses the CMC Omnipower USA. It is very hard to push down but the pedal travel is very short and the clutch response is amazing. You like it or you don't. they had issue with the first version of the product but since then, Omni have been able to fix the flaws. I've also put a Honda OEM slave to make sure the system is fully sealed.

I do not recommend the use of stainless steel braided line on a clutch system. The best clutch line for it is the hard OEM metal line because it won't expand when you hit the clutch. Stainless braided line have a teflon interior that expend especially when the engine bay is hot. The only place where you should install a stainless braided line is the little flex hose going from the chassis to the motor.

Save yourself some time... if you saw that it's leaking under the pedal, do not rebleed the system for nothing that will last no more then an hour. Just change the CMC. Also... be carefull with brake fluid.. it destroy paint...

Originally Posted by FrankJones
Does the clutch fluid share the same resevoir as the brake fluid?
^^^^ WTF moment of the day

Have fun and enjoy bleeding your clutch

Last edited by Moonraker09; Jul 12, 2011 at 06:39 AM.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 09:33 AM
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Yes it does share the same resevoir. Replace the slave cylinder which is 12 dollars at auto zone if its leaking. Or master cylinder if thats leaking.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by that_boy_sammy
Yes it does share the same resevoir. Replace the slave cylinder which is 12 dollars at auto zone if its leaking. Or master cylinder if thats leaking.
No it doesn't share the same reservoir. They both use brake fluid, but the clutch reservoir is very small and almost in the corner of the engine bay (near driver). The brake MS reservoir is right on top of the BMC. There is a small hose connecting the CMC with the clutch reservoir.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by that_boy_sammy
Yes it does share the same resevoir. Replace the slave cylinder which is 12 dollars at auto zone if its leaking. Or master cylinder if thats leaking.
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