I'm new to the whole "new cars" and "Japanese cars" thing. I've done 3
engine swaps, but on older american non-EFI cars (all pre-1977), etc., so
I'm a bit confused...

I have a 96 Accord. Stock. I want to get into increasing performance. It's the
low-end model, no V-Tec head.

What all is involved in putting a new head on the thing? Obviously I need the
head, what else has to be modified. Does the V-Tec connect places that the
plain one does not? Do I need a new ECU? Can I put a DOHC on my engine?
If I'm going to have to buy a head, should I go ahead and look for cams too?

Thanks for any and all help.


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Um, 96 Accord, stock.

Oh, and 1971 Nova SS
350 w/ 750 CFM carb
moroso throttle
Eddlebrock heads
Traction bars
Headers
etc.


[Modified by xiaodown, 4:55 AM 10/2/2002]

 

swapping the head wouldn't be worth the money

if you want to increase performance look into getting a H22A prelude vtec motor...best mod for the money. Or turbo your engine.

 

em, why no just do a swap?
swap a motor already have those stuffs.

 

Welcome to H-T.

Swapping a Vtec(Vtech is a phone company ) head onto a non-vtec F22(your engine code) is not worth the time and effort. HP gains would be minimal (10whp) and you would need a new ECU.

Swapping a DOHC head onto a SOHC specific block is possible, but not without alot of machine work and in the end its not very cost effective and I would never trust a shop to do it. Its something that just isnt done.

What you could do is completely swap your SOHC non-vtec 2.2l engine for a DOHC VTEC 2.2l engine with about 60+ more HP depending on the version of it.

Turbocharging is also a very good option for your SOHC non-vtec.

Take the time to take a look around Honda-Tech, the Tech forum, the past pages of the Accord forum, Forced Induction, etc. There are volumes of great info to read. I could have written you 40 pages on your questions Hope you enjoy the site.

 

I'm on a budget. College student, working to pay for it. How much am I looking
at for an engine swap? And where would you reccomend looking?

Thank you, though. This is what I needed to hear.

Oh, if i swap the engine, what else will i need, probably a new ECU, for the vtec,
right? Anything else?

 

Thanks for all the replys, by the way.

I would assume I'm capable of swapping the engine (I have a lift & stand), but
it is a lot of work. What's the advantage over adding a turbo or something, or
would a turbo just be a "barring X situation, I'd suggest Y as your next best bet"?

I'm willing to swap, but if it's easier and equivalant (sp) I could do the turbo.

~xiaodown

 

This topic has been beaten to death, so I will be dissagreed with here. Turbo has way more high HP potential but at a cost of reliability and more money and/or work as well as fuel and ignition upgrades. And H22 is basically a direct drop and all you will need is axles, ecu, some VTEC (not V-Tech) wiring, mounts, and....um, a couple of other little things. Then you have to deal with OBD. Have fun.

 

actually u use accord axles man

 

I thought you used one prelude axle?

 

I've heard the Prelude axles are actually weaker than the accord's. no experience with them though.

 

Too much hearsay around here guys. Lets stick with the facts.

Back to the original topic.

If you were to buy an engine swap everything you need would come with it. The cliche around here is "do a search". Take a look around the forum, search and read up. Try http://www.hondamotorsonline.com for prices. There have been plenty of threads in the past pertaining to what you inquire about.

 

they might be but they do not fit (atleast in a 4th gen swap) so it doesn't really matter

 

BWAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA!!!! Did you find that on a bazooka joe wrapper or the back of a cereal box?!?!?


brian, who has bastardized 10 accord axles and has yet to destroy any prelude ones....

 

OBD

Forgive the ignorance in advance, but what's OBD?

 

Complete motor and hydro tranny,ecu(P13),axles,shifter cable,stock motor
mounts,engine harness and all sensors needed. Motors have under 30,000 miles
and come with 100% start up warranty. Lsd tranny equipped available upon
inquireing(Add $300.00 more). Motors come with no sensors broken guarantee.


Hrm, also, if i got something like this, it would mean an automatic to manual
conversion. I'm ok with it being an automatic, but this would seem to have
everything else i'm looking for, right? So I'll look for this, sans transmission
(transaxle whatever).

 

On Board Diagnostics

OR...

The federal government mandating one more thing in your life...

Actually OBD 1 isnt tooo bad. OBD2 is pretty much a pain. OBD2 is on all 96+ cars.OBD1 is 90 - 95 I believe. not certain on the 90 for that one

OBD is a set of codes required to be in the cars computer. they are to be implemented by the manufactuer, but How they get implemented is up to the carmaker. ie a code 41 is'nt the same for a chevy as it is a honda. Anyway, sensors are required to be on the motor to monitor emissions. if the cars emissions get out of line, the computer adjusts the A/F mixture to get it right. If things get waayy outta whack, the check engien light comes on. At the same time the computer stores a code, indicating what went wrong. carmakers LOVE this because now joe sixpak can't work on his car, he has to take it to the dealer to find out what the code is. (don't worry, there is a back door) This is pretty much what OBD1 does, OBD2 gets worse. OBD2 Learns about your driving conditions, driving style, andy mods you may have made, and tunes them down. added an intake? after a few weeks OBD2 knows about the added airfllow, and had changed the fuel map to get you optimum emissions. this is not necessarilly benifical to power or mileage though.

google for OBD2 and you'll get more info than you know what to do with.

 

my v-tech has call waiting, paging, answering machine, headset option, oh wait we are talking about v-tec, sorry. just kidding around.