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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 06:45 PM
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anyone know the conversion factor from kilograms to american spring rates???

toda coilovers sell 8kg front and 6kg rear rate with their coil overs. how much is this to lbs?
i think with the equation, i can find the reverse lbs to kg. and i already tried mutliplyting by 2.2, it doesnt work. casue american spring rates are in the hundreds...

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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 06:50 PM
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You converted the kg to lb, but you didn't bother converting the mm to inches. There's 25.4 mm to an inch. Anyway, math is hard so I'll have the computer do it.

$ units
500 units, 54 prefixes
You have: kg/mm
You want: lb/in
* 55.997415
/ 0.017857967
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 06:50 PM
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#Kg x 56 is a close approximation.

8K springs ~= 448#
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 06:55 PM
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#Kg x 56 is a close approximation.
What?! It's off by more than 46 parts per million! You call that close? Kids these days...

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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 06:56 PM
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Kids these days...

LOL!
Thanks, but @ 43 ... never mind.
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 07:11 PM
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It's late, my eyes and brain are fried, but try this: Think in terms of multiplying fractions and do the following (assuming that the small numbers mean they are rating them in kg/mm (8 kilo load compresses the spring 1mm)...

kg/mm x 2.2lb/1kg x 25.4mm/1in = lb/in

OR

(Asian rate) x 2.2 x 25.4

OR

(Asian rate) x 55.8

Your 8kg/mm springs are about 446lb/in and the 6kg/mm springs are about 335lb/in.

Kirk

(Edit - corrected my math to hide my two bonehead errors. Thanks, guys. Will I get West Nile Virus eating this crow? Do you think white wine with it?)




[Modified by Knestis, 4:26 AM 10/2/2002]
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 07:19 PM
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normally springs are measured in IN/LB

56in/lb = 1 kgf/mm

8kgf/mm springs are equal to 448 in/lb springs

to get the in/lb rate just multiply the kgf/mm by 56
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 07:19 PM
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Default Re: kg/mm to lbs??? (Zygspeed)

MATH ppl, MATH!!!

1Kg/1mm * 25.4mm/1inch * 1lb/0.4536Kg = 56.0 lb/inch
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 07:22 PM
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OK, tell Mr. K. where he went wrong and you can go to recess early...
This is upside down...

1lb/2.2kg
Also, in my limited experience, we measure spring rates in lb/in, not lb/ft. You're bringing back memories of grading physics problem sets... every student would come up with a different, inconvenient, but technically valid set of units with which to express his answer.

Off to recess! Yay!
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 07:25 PM
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normally springs are measured in IN/LB

56in/lb = 1 kgf/mm
Since I'm playing Units **** tonight, I'll point out that it should be lb/in, not in/lb. (Read "/" as "per.") A Slinky probably stretches 56 inches per pound. I hope your suspension doesn't.
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 07:28 PM
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At least I got the "lb" in the right place. No running with scissors, you kids!

Kirk

(Whose PhD will NOT be in math OR physics)

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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 08:15 PM
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normally springs are measured in IN/LB

56in/lb = 1 kgf/mm


Since I'm playing Units **** tonight, I'll point out that it should be lb/in, not in/lb. (Read "/" as "per.") A Slinky probably stretches 56 inches per pound. I hope your suspension doesn't.

oops... mah bad been playin with spring rate conversions too long.
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 10:14 PM
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