What is the preferred BOV for 400HP on a B18C1?

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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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Default What is the preferred BOV for 400HP on a B18C1?

What does everybody run for blow off valves, on an 400whp daily driver setup? I want something that will eliminate compressor surge.

B18C1 12-18 psi of boost
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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Tial 50 mm Q with a 8 lbs spring.
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 09:02 PM
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agreed!
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mar778c
Tial 50 mm Q with a 8 lbs spring.
question, i know you've been in the turbo world a long time...but....

according to the tial chart 21-22in of vacuum would use an 11lb spring

last two b18c's i've tested were 21 and 22.5"
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 09:50 PM
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well too much spring and youll get compressor surge.. but follow tials instructions and see if you like it..


I know a few guys running tials and they love em. I use the HKS SSQV and i love it
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Default Re: What is the preferred BOV for 400HP on a B18C1?

Im kinda leaning towards the Greddy Type-R Series II BOV

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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by EsotericImage
well too much spring and youll get compressor surge.. but follow tials instructions and see if you like it..


I know a few guys running tials and they love em. I use the HKS SSQV and i love it
too much spring and it just doesn't open.

wonder if the shodan will stop by on readings regarding measured vacuum at idle and spring pressure
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 10:51 PM
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i like the synapse solution
these guys are way ahead of the curve http://synapseengineering.com/
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by racebum
too much spring and it just doesn't open.

wonder if the shodan will stop by on readings regarding measured vacuum at idle and spring pressure
For the TiALs, going by vacuum pressure at idle is best. I've seen a lot of that synapse vs. TiAL attack where the Synapse guys use the wrong spring based upon vacuum, then claim it was the design of the valve that was the problem. (what an immature tactic).

Anywho, here's the spring chart list. Most Hondas use 11psi based upon vacuum, but I have seen it set a bit lower in case there were changes. The GReddy R is quite adjustable for use (not sound), and is MUCH larger than the RS, (47mm) so there's no need to worry about the vacuum reading so much.

http://www.tialmedia.com/documents/w3_tial_bovq_sp.pdf

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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 06:32 AM
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Yeah I miss my greddy R. I had to cut a coil off of one of the springs inside of my RS to get the surge to go away. I will be trying the inlinePRO bov soon and hope it does better.
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Im really liking the sound of the Type-R Greddy valve
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^ Regarding the supra greddy type-r video:

When the bov flutters like that, I thought that was an indication of the bov not working properly and compressor surge? Is that the case or is it normal for that bov to sound like that?
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Tial Q here, love it
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 09:14 AM
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^ Regarding the supra greddy type-r video:

When the bov flutters like that, I thought that was an indication of the bov not working properly and compressor surge? Is that the case or is it normal for that bov to sound like that?
I don't think its actually compressor surge, I think its just a loose adjusting bolt on the top of the BOV
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
For the TiALs, going by vacuum pressure at idle is best. I've seen a lot of that synapse vs. TiAL attack where the Synapse guys use the wrong spring based upon vacuum, then claim it was the design of the valve that was the problem. (what an immature tactic).

Anywho, here's the spring chart list. Most Hondas use 11psi based upon vacuum, but I have seen it set a bit lower in case there were changes. The GReddy R is quite adjustable for use (not sound), and is MUCH larger than the RS, (47mm) so there's no need to worry about the vacuum reading so much.

http://www.tialmedia.com/documents/w3_tial_bovq_sp.pdf
I bought my tial with a 11lb spring for my boosted b18c1 and not sure if its gonna be too heavy of a spring or not.
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Default Re: What is the preferred BOV for 400HP on a B18C1?

Currently using a Tial 50mm, and I love it.
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 4cylfeind
I bought my tial with a 11lb spring for my boosted b18c1 and not sure if its gonna be too heavy of a spring or not.
$12.99 would have saved guessing

http://www.harborfreight.com/fuel-pu...ter-93547.html
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lol the car doesnt run yet. I just remember that it fell into the 11lb spring range when i ran it last year
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Tial Q here, love it
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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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Default Re: What is the preferred BOV for 400HP on a B18C1?

im still using my original greddy type s that i bought about 6 years ago. if i had to get another one id go with the tial
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Default Re: What is the preferred BOV for 400HP on a B18C1?

Originally Posted by racebum
question, i know you've been in the turbo world a long time...but....

according to the tial chart 21-22in of vacuum would use an 11lb spring

last two b18c's i've tested were 21 and 22.5"
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Originally Posted by EsotericImage
well too much spring and youll get compressor surge.. but follow tials instructions and see if you like it..


I know a few guys running tials and they love em.
I'm running relatively low boost 11 lbs.
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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by blackeg
im still using my original greddy type s that i bought about 6 years ago. if i had to get another one id go with the tial
whats your reason behind that i love the type-s bov and was pissed greddy discontinued making them
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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 10:12 AM
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tial and went with what they recommend with the spring chart!
No problem here with it!
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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 06:51 PM
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whats your reason behind that i love the type-s bov and was pissed greddy discontinued making them
you pretty much got it with they dont make them anymore. mine is showing its age, the threads pulled out on the adjustment bolt on top, i had to retap it a larger size.
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I just took my Type-S off of the car and went to a Type-R for the new setup. I loved the Type-S, and the thing is still in great shape, but for the higher boost pressure on the larger turbo, I found a barely used Type-R for a hell of a deal, and it better suited me.
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