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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 08:18 AM
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Well long story short Im getting no spark. I've tested just about everything at this point.

I've got new spark plugs

3 dizzys to test on that are known good

Tested the grounds

Continuity on igniter wire all the way to igniter

It seems that the only thing I've seen wrong is no power on the actual coil. But seeing as that is a problem on all 3 dizzys what could cause that?
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 08:20 AM
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Is this the same continuing issue as in this thread?
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/car-wont-start-vafc-flickering-runs-like-shit-2895533/
In that post you stated that you got the ECU wet.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:15 AM
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This is a whole new issue..I thought the Ecu had gotten wet but it was just the starter that had gotten wet and shorted out.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:46 AM
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test the ignition coil,Is it a b16a2?
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:03 AM
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It could be your ECU or your main relay. If the coil isnt getting any power thats your problem. Check continuity between the power source and the wire for the coil
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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No it's LS/v now. And I'll swap out the Ecu today but I'm not sure if it would be the main relay since it clicks like normal and I'm getting fuel pressure
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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What car?

Any CeL codes?

Does the Blk/Yel wire attached to the coil and igniter unit have battery voltage with the key in ON(II)?

Does the Yel/Grn wire running between the igniter unit and ECU have a short or open?
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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It's an Em1. Stock harness. Motor is ls/v. There is continuity between the igniter and the Ecu. Yes the yellow and black has power with key on. No cels
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jake00si
It's an Em1. Stock harness. Motor is ls/v. There is continuity between the igniter and the Ecu.
Check the wire for short.
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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I've swapped the ECU with a buddy and still nothing. Tested the ignition switch and it seems to be good. When I test the dizzy with it plugged in..no + at the coil but i'll get + all around the coil..going in and coming out. But shouldnt the - side of the coil be grounded instead of hot? Makes sense to me
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 09:09 PM
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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Rather than bump, do this:

Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
Check the wire for short.
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 09:22 AM
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the coil is grounded by the ignitor to cause spark . check you crank sensor and do what ron said .
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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did u check the ground on the thermostat housing?
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 08:52 PM
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i took a few days off from messing with it. tomorrow im back at it
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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Pulled out the whole harness to do some continuity checks, check for shorts and ohm it out. Everything seems fine so far..which leads me to believe it could be the ecu (even tho i've tried two p28s).

Battery is good (brand new)->Ignition switch good->Main relay good (tested it and the fuel pump works)-> Tried 2 different P28s which seem fine -> 3 different dizzys -> Spark Plug wires ohm out fine-> New Spark Plugs.

Grounds seem fine but I might not be getting the pulsing ground from the ecu to create spark.

Other than changing out the ecu again im at a complete loss
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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its not a relay? i had the same problem and i had to replace a like bmfi relay, or something like that haha
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by xxvinxx43
its not a relay? i had the same problem and i had to replace a like bmfi relay, or something like that haha
who knows..it could be anything. but im under the impression that only the main relay controls it...and that is within tolerance. wth is a bmfi relay?
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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main relay only controls fuel other then supplying power to ecu which if it wasnt turning on obv you wouldn't have spark.
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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Sooo pretty much pull all the relays...sweet. lets hope this is something i've overlooked
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