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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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hi,

i'm new to the site and i don't know where to post.

i have a friend who owns a shop and wants to import Integra Type R(s). What laws are there and will he get in trouble?

if so, whats the right way on importing and selling a real RHD Type R
Old Jun 13, 2011 | 09:49 PM
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I would day the rules vary state to state, but here is a very good break down for you, also stickied at the top of this forum.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-type-r-8/importing-grey-market-vehicle-facts-whats-legal-whats-not-2805656/
Old Jun 13, 2011 | 09:57 PM
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thanks for your help
Old Jun 15, 2011 | 05:08 PM
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No, they don't vary. It's a federal law. You can't legally register an imported Type R. You can remove the engine and bring in the chassis as parts, use it as a show car or for racing, but it can never be on a public road.
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No, they don't vary. It's a federal law. You can't legally register an imported Type R. You can remove the engine and bring in the chassis as parts, use it as a show car or for racing, but it can never be on a public road.
I went with a buddy of mine to NJ state DMV and we registered his JDM ITR, and it's legal. I'm in law enforcement here in NJ as well, and never had an issue with a JDM or other stock RHD car. Clearly, it does vary.
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I went with a buddy of mine to NJ state DMV and we registered his JDM ITR, and it's legal. I'm in law enforcement here in NJ as well, and never had an issue with a JDM or other stock RHD car. Clearly, it does vary.
Just because it is registered in the state does not mean it is legal. Read the thread you posted more carefully. See below:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2805656

Originally Posted by Dr. DC2
The first thing people always want to know is how to register a GMV. Almost ALL grey market vehicle owners (or the company that imported the chassis) paid someone at the DMV (someone who knew somebody who know somebody) a couple thousand (under the table) so they would write them a US title using the original 10 digit Japanese serial number. This is ILLEGAL. GMVs (grey market vehicles) must go through a rigorous process. Just because your CTR or ITR is STATE titled and STATE registered doesn’t make it legal. Most state DMV workers do not know the ins and outs of GMV FEDERAL requirements. (Federal meaning ALL 50 US states HAVE TO COMPLY)

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I went with a buddy of mine to NJ state DMV and we registered his JDM ITR, and it's legal. I'm in law enforcement here in NJ as well, and never had an issue with a JDM or other stock RHD car. Clearly, it does vary.
so im assuming youre some kind of state level law enforcer because these guys always seem to think they dont have to answer to anybody on the federal level. its in black and white all over the ntsb website.
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so im assuming youre some kind of state level law enforcer because these guys always seem to think they dont have to answer to anybody on the federal level. its in black and white all over the ntsb website.
I just swung by because this caught my eye..But even more so your comment.

Why do you have to be an ******* with your response. As you can or can't see he's just telling you what he's done and giving his information. There's no real need for you to come with such a ridiculous and insulting comment his level of work. Seriously, people like you make make it hard for people to even post a question without the fear of being attacked. TONE IT DOWN.
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Originally Posted by SIRIUS VTEC
I just swung by because this caught my eye..But even more so your comment.

Why do you have to be an ******* with your response. As you can or can't see he's just telling you what he's done and giving his information. There's no real need for you to come with such a ridiculous and insulting comment his level of work. Seriously, people like you make make it hard for people to even post a question without the fear of being attacked. TONE IT DOWN.
you're in the itr section, it's kind of like team integra in here with a twist. people are ****, ********, elitists and generally good to make fun of
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Originally Posted by misformartin
hi,

i'm new to the site and i don't know where to post.

i have a friend who owns a shop and wants to import Integra Type R(s). What laws are there and will he get in trouble?

if so, whats the right way on importing and selling a real RHD Type R
My answer to you is that you're definitely going to find a mix bag of answers. A ton of people have registered them with the Department Of Motor Vehicles, but the bottom line is Most japanese Spo Com cars such as the Integra's and the Civic's Don't meet DOT standards in which they'd be deemed drive-able for off-road use only. Honestly, there are a few loops holes in the federal system as you can see. As for your friend and his shop, I believe you can only sell an Authentic RHD as a private sell and get away with it whether it's registered or not. If you look around you'll see them for sell in the states. As for selling it as a dealer I highly doubt you can sell a car at a dealer that isn't Federally legal.
Old Jun 15, 2011 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by racebum
you're in the itr section, it's kind of like team integra in here with a twist. people are ****, ********, elitists and generally good to make fun of
No excuse, obviously someone's PMS-ing. Unfortunately this doesn't just occur on ITR Island. If you guys stick your head out of your finely tuned cockpits it happens in all tech sections it seems now a days.
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Originally Posted by SIRIUS VTEC
I just swung by because this caught my eye..But even more so your comment.

Why do you have to be an ******* with your response. As you can or can't see he's just telling you what he's done and giving his information. There's no real need for you to come with such a ridiculous and insulting comment his level of work. Seriously, people like you make make it hard for people to even post a question without the fear of being attacked. TONE IT DOWN.
im sorry if i offended you or the guy i quoted for that fact. but i was just making an educated guess based on personal experience with grey market cars and law enforcement. this issue has a huge STICKY at the top of this forum and this topic has been beat to death not only here on ht but all over the net. the law is the law and its pretty much black and white. next time dont be so sensitive and i wont come off as suck a dick. good day.
Old Jun 16, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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Damn... this is getting heated calm down people the OP got the sticky thread and he has got the info. No reason to keep arguing guys!

Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics... even if you win, you're still retarded.
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Originally Posted by kyosoeg6
so im assuming youre some kind of state level law enforcer because these guys always seem to think they dont have to answer to anybody on the federal level. its in black and white all over the ntsb website.
I lol'd at the state level comment. If the DMV sells you a registration for the vehicle, which contains an issue date and expiration date, the VIN number, which can be issued a 17 digit number to make up for the JDM number, and it's on the reg card as well, and you have all required documents for the vehicle from the DMV and insurance, it's legal. You can't be penalized for driving the vehicle you legally have registered. If the state is putting these vehicles on the road then the driver isn't doing anything illegal, it's in the states hands any responsible it might need to take from the federal government.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 11:33 PM
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Who here on HT has a jdm rhd itr or any REAL RHD on the streets as of date? It would make more sense if those owners came out and give us their story on how they registered and imported their caRs. I always read these threads and half the time its makes no sense.
Old Jun 17, 2011 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulMc
I lol'd at the state level comment. If the DMV sells you a registration for the vehicle, which contains an issue date and expiration date, the VIN number, which can be issued a 17 digit number to make up for the JDM number, and it's on the reg card as well, and you have all required documents for the vehicle from the DMV and insurance, it's legal. You can't be penalized for driving the vehicle you legally have registered. If the state is putting these vehicles on the road then the driver isn't doing anything illegal, it's in the states hands any responsible it might need to take from the federal government.
Sorry, but that logic doesn't hold up with the feds. Just ask the many Skyline owners who had registered cars, and then the feds came knocking on their door and took there cars away and crushed them.
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/03/n...sible-illegal/

So yes, you can be penalized if they are already registered.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...st-furiou.html
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Originally Posted by Dr. DC2
Damn... this is getting heated calm down people the OP got the sticky thread and he has got the info. No reason to keep arguing guys!

Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics... even if you win, you're still retarded.
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OP, see the stickied thread.

Importing a Grey Market Vehicle (the facts on what's legal and what's not)
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