Daily/Reliable Boost on stock B16a2
Ok, the synopsis, I'm leaning toward boost. I've been reading tons of stuff and will continue to, but I wanted to get some input flowing to put me in a good direction. Before any of it, I'm going to hit the motor with a compression/leak down test to make sure its worth even investing in, and I'm also going to replace a couple seals to make the motor in good shape for FI.
I have a couple of ideas as well as questions. Only thing not stock on the motor are the CTR cams. As for questions. I'm looking for 250-300 whp as a goal. Can that be done reliably on stock internals? I know most will argue that it depends on the tune, but I thought id put that out there. The major questions are, with that goal, what size injectors should I run? I've read 440's or 550's and on top of it, whats the deciding factor for that? Also do I run a Walbro 255 for that set up? And finally for the turbo set up, I read in one post that Garrett/Precision make good turbo's for a daily car. I'm not sure on the validaty of that, so fill me in. I'm not rich, but I'll spend what it takes to do it proper. I'll keep reading while I wait for you guys to overwhelm me with knowledge. Thanks in advance.
I have a couple of ideas as well as questions. Only thing not stock on the motor are the CTR cams. As for questions. I'm looking for 250-300 whp as a goal. Can that be done reliably on stock internals? I know most will argue that it depends on the tune, but I thought id put that out there. The major questions are, with that goal, what size injectors should I run? I've read 440's or 550's and on top of it, whats the deciding factor for that? Also do I run a Walbro 255 for that set up? And finally for the turbo set up, I read in one post that Garrett/Precision make good turbo's for a daily car. I'm not sure on the validaty of that, so fill me in. I'm not rich, but I'll spend what it takes to do it proper. I'll keep reading while I wait for you guys to overwhelm me with knowledge. Thanks in advance.
300whp is safe on a stock motor... considering the tune yes...
im a huge advocate for the Injector Dynamics new injector technology so I would argue to use ID750s or ID1000s but that may be out of your price range. overkill sometimes isnt a bad thing though
A walbro would do fine however for a couple extra dollars you could get a much more efficient fuel pump like the full blown 340, aeromotive 340, or the dw301.
Look at other peoples setups more and youll find the proper combination of parts for your build.
im a huge advocate for the Injector Dynamics new injector technology so I would argue to use ID750s or ID1000s but that may be out of your price range. overkill sometimes isnt a bad thing though
A walbro would do fine however for a couple extra dollars you could get a much more efficient fuel pump like the full blown 340, aeromotive 340, or the dw301.
Look at other peoples setups more and youll find the proper combination of parts for your build.
As mentioned above.
Tuning is key , skimping on tuning will only result in poor results.
Concerning a fuel system, a walbro 255 lph fuel pump and 440-550cc injectors will allow you to reach your goals. Not all injectors are equal, if you have the money buy some quality injectors.
Tuning is key , skimping on tuning will only result in poor results.
Concerning a fuel system, a walbro 255 lph fuel pump and 440-550cc injectors will allow you to reach your goals. Not all injectors are equal, if you have the money buy some quality injectors.
Well I'm in the Tampa area so I'll be coming to you when it comes time as long as it's work you'd be interested in. I'm just in the research part of this project now.
We have a fuel calculator page on our website that you can play around with to see how different power goals and fuel choices can affect your fueling needs.
www.deatschwerks.com/fuel-calculators
For a boosted Honda, I'd suggest between 0.55-0.6 BSFC for pump gas and 0.75-0.8 for E85 (higher the number, more fuel is needed) and 85-90% IDC. I usually use higher numbers as it's better to have more than you need than not enough.
Also, as far as the fuel pumps go, especially for a daily, you could spend a few more bucks for a DW301 pump vs a Walbro and get a quieter operating pump and a 3-year warranty.
www.deatschwerks.com/fuel-calculators
For a boosted Honda, I'd suggest between 0.55-0.6 BSFC for pump gas and 0.75-0.8 for E85 (higher the number, more fuel is needed) and 85-90% IDC. I usually use higher numbers as it's better to have more than you need than not enough.
Also, as far as the fuel pumps go, especially for a daily, you could spend a few more bucks for a DW301 pump vs a Walbro and get a quieter operating pump and a 3-year warranty.
Maybe, but the motor is stock so I dont want to chance reliability. And if I go for more, it'll probably include some building and that starts a whole different monster.
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