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Old May 31, 2011 | 06:04 AM
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I recently finished the suspension install on my 98 Integra. For about 2 months I had ES poly bushings installed in the rear with Progress CSII coilovers (350F/500R) at all 4 corners and a 22mm rear bar. It had a surprisingly smooth ride with this set up. Last week I had the ES poly bushings installed in the front along with SPC adjustable upper ball joints (67135), new lower ball joints, and new tie rods. Now my front suspension crashes over all bumps (even painted lines on the road). I have the coilovers set at 12” all the way around, so it isn’t bottoming out. Has anyone had a similar problem? How did you fix it? It almost feels like both front shocks are blown but, they are only 2 months old.
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Old May 31, 2011 | 06:35 AM
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the shocks do carry a 1 year warranty. I'm running progress 350F/350R myself and I haven't had any problems in the 6 months I've put on them. Have you contacted progress? They probably open their phone lines around 9am PST.

I'm having to guess with all the bushing changes something is wrong there. Hard telling.
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Old May 31, 2011 | 06:36 AM
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Sounds related to the other issue you just posted about.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/spc-upper-ball-joint-help-2941909/
Should have posted this all in one thread.
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Old May 31, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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I spoke to tech support at Progress. They think that since my car has not been realigned after the work, that the geometry of my ball joints is off. I am having the car aligned tomorrow. Hopefully it will fix the problem.
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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 07:44 AM
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I hope you explained the situation about the ball joints that you only have partially installed. As in not pressed in all the way. I doubt it's the alignment causing your issue. Especially since I installed the CS-IIs and didn't have such a problem.
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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 07:49 AM
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I am indeed on CS-II's as well and didn't have any problems. Car definitely drove much better after I got it aligned.

My favorite part about getting an alignment is always the redneck behind the counter who insists that my alignment will be more expensive because the camber needs to be adjusted too because the car is lowered.

My response: "Well it's a good thing my camber isn't adjustable then, isn't it? Do the alignment. Jesus."
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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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The alignment didn't help.

Per Progress's suggestions I am going to check for loose bolts or the upper ball joint hitting the wheel well. I doubt that it is hitting it within the first half inch of suspension travel when I am feeling the crash. The ball joints are properly installed.
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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 02:38 PM
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The ball joints are properly installed.
This doesn't sound like the ball joints are properly installed to me.
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I had some SPC adjustable ball joints (pn 67135) installed on my 98 Integra. The installer said that they wouldn’t go all the way into the spindle. He got the nut properly torqued but, he could not insert the cotter pin. The tapered part of the ball joint wouldn’t go far enough into the spindle to get the cotter pin in. These ball joints are the correct part number of my car. Has anyone had a similar problem? How did you fix it?
So did you get this taken care of? You failed to mention it in your other thread.
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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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I figured out what is causing the crashing. The upper ball joints are hitting the inside of the fender. I am not sure that the stack up on the ball joint is correct. I need to get another copy of the install instructions.

I spoke to Progress about the cotter pin hole. They suggested that I get a smaller cotter pin. They weren't worried about the installation of the ball joint in the spindle.
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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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This has nothing to do with the CS-IIs just like I said it had nothing to do with the alignment.

The ball joint is hitting the inside of the fender because it isn't seated correctly. Of course Progress isn't worried, it's not their product causing the issue!

You need to verify that you were indeed sent the correct ball joints!!! The cotter pin keeps the castle nut from working loose. So guess what happens when there's no cotter pin?
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Old Jun 4, 2011 | 02:12 AM
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It turns out that the ball joints are for a Dodge. 67160 ball joints came in a 67135 box. So now I am going to have to get the correct ball joints sent to me, get them installed, and get the car aligned again.

If anyone buys any SPC ball joints, make sure the part number on the ball joint is correct for your car. The label on the box isn't worth anything.
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Old Jun 4, 2011 | 03:06 AM
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The ball joints are properly installed.
What did I tell you?
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Old Jun 4, 2011 | 06:53 PM
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SPC camber kits are known to be too big for lowered cars.
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 07:36 AM
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What did I tell you?
The ball joints are installed correctly. They are not the correct ball joints for the car.
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 08:14 AM
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The ball joints are installed correctly. They are not the correct ball joints for the car.
If they were the wrong ball joints then they could NOT have been installed correctly. The fact that your mechanic could not seat them properly says that much.
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 08:13 AM
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I now have the correct ball joints installed on my car. The ball joints still hit the inner fenders during hard cornering but, they have not hit yet going over bumps. I have yet to get it aligned.
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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And you are lowered HOW much? Ball joints aren't hitting anything when I turn, go over speed bumps, hit a pothole, nothing.
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 07:37 AM
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I am at 12.25" from the center of the wheel to the fender. It is about a two finger gap between tire and fender.
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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Then you have something fubarred because that just should not be happening.
I am lowered to about a finger gap all the way around on PCSIIs and do not have this issue. The worst thing that happens is a get a little scrapage from the wheel well lining on the drivers side on sudden dips on even road surfaces. That's 11.5" from wheel center to fender running 205/40-16.
You also won't find anyone else that are running these reporting this issue.
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by STOCK_SOHC_DX
SPC camber kits are known to be too big for lowered cars.
Also. Check into this.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 07:23 PM
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has anyone had these issues with the newer skunk2 upper control arms? I think mine are hitting the inner Fenderwell as well
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