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Old May 23, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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I went to go have my 93 accord wagon aligned today they told me that they align all 4 wheels on these models , so its about $60 no big, then upon inspection they tell me i need a camber kit for the rear end so they can align it they told me the kit installed would be about $400. I was thinking that was pretty steep i asked them how much the part was and they told me about $350 bucks.Is somebody trying to pull a fast one on me?
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Old May 23, 2011 | 03:42 PM
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Way to go into detail on what you have done to it.

Is the car lowered? If not then I'd be more suspect on bent suspension components.

Honestly not that it matters, if you search you will find that camber matters very little when it comes to tire wear.
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Old May 23, 2011 | 05:11 PM
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the car is totally stock it has 240,000 miles
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Old May 23, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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the car is totally stock it has 240,000 miles
Then you've got one of two possibilities IMO as to why it's not correct:

1) Retarded/shady alignment guys just trying to sell you something
2) Bent components

You can do a rear washer trick to shim out the upper control arm in the rear to correct ~2 degrees of camber and that costs *maybe* $10 and takes 1 hour of your time. Or you can buy a professional piece for an adjustable upper arm (click here) for $100. Definitely not $350. Your BS meter was dead on accurate.

Or just have them 0 out the toe on the vehicle and ignore the camber issues. If the car is 100% stock I would just have them 0 the toe and be done with it. There's no reason to spend $400 on a camber kit (which is a rip off btw).

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Here is the 'washer trick' I referenced. I did it on my old car without any problems.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/5th-gen-accord-rear-camber-washer-trick-guide-how-1257911/
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Old May 23, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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funny thing is upon inspecting the rear tires, the camber looks fine. however based upon the way the rear tires are wearing it seems as though they are toed in. I have driven vw bugs for years and i know what +or - camber wear looks like. this wear is totally different.
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Old May 23, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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funny thing is upon inspecting the rear tires, the camber looks fine. however based upon the way the rear tires are wearing it seems as though they are toed in. I have driven vw bugs for years and i know what +or - camber wear looks like. this wear is totally different.
Most likely is related to the toe, I have an inkling you may be 1 or 2 degrees cambered incorrectly and they want you to spend a fortune on unncessary and overpriced parts to fix the 'problem'.
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Old May 23, 2011 | 08:23 PM
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how should i go about measuring camber ? i read the washer fix thread and it sounds pretty straight forward, how many washers equal a degree of camber ?
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Old May 24, 2011 | 07:42 PM
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how should i go about measuring camber ? i read the washer fix thread and it sounds pretty straight forward, how many washers equal a degree of camber ?
Well honestly, the best way would be to have the car's camber measured by a professional, I really don't know of an easy way to do it at home correctly. You can use a larger level and put it against the wheel and see where the bubbles are. I believe you should have 0 degrees camber in the rear, so I would just try to level it out.
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