ideas for good spots to draw cold air from on crx, safe from water?
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i was in the middle of doing a DIY air intake modification, going by a write-up a guy did from a post on honda-tech, and it was where you just are modifying your stock airbox, where you have a 3" irrigation tube used to draw air into the front of the stock airbox, where it snakes down to area under bumper.
and i did'nt do it because i just realised i had one of those long-style intakes back in 2003, that went down to bumper, and i drove through water and it sucked water blowing hole in block, killing my original d16 engine.
so can anyone help me brainstorm alternative ideas or ways to do same sort of thing??
i want to still draw air from some place using the tubing and up to the front of the airbox, but just need to think of other places, where the end of the tube that draws the air is just higher up enough to not get water sucked into it.
like what about just not as low as the bumper? like have it extend still out front of stock airbox but just snake halfway down but high enough to not get water?
or what about like have it go to area by wheel well and fender area???
or just forget and leave hole open at front of stock airbox not worrying about water stuff.
i'm in dallas, texas, which is'nt that bad when it comes to rain seasons, but it can always have some unexpected floods and rain storms too, but as long as its not as low as those long-style cold air intakes that go down into bumper 4" from ground then i think it would be ok.
maybe i should just put the intake back to how Honda originally designed it, where that plastic tube goes from airbox across top of radiator and ends with hold by hood latch area, where it sucks air from gap between the hood and bumper area ???
why is'nt that good enough ???, how come everyone says to have a long extension or whatever, seems to me the stock design is good, cause at least they have it to where the air intake extension tube draws air from the front of the car (crack between hood & top of bumper), but its also high enough for water not to enter it.
any ideas, opinions, or whatever is cool
and i did'nt do it because i just realised i had one of those long-style intakes back in 2003, that went down to bumper, and i drove through water and it sucked water blowing hole in block, killing my original d16 engine.
so can anyone help me brainstorm alternative ideas or ways to do same sort of thing??
i want to still draw air from some place using the tubing and up to the front of the airbox, but just need to think of other places, where the end of the tube that draws the air is just higher up enough to not get water sucked into it.
like what about just not as low as the bumper? like have it extend still out front of stock airbox but just snake halfway down but high enough to not get water?
or what about like have it go to area by wheel well and fender area???
or just forget and leave hole open at front of stock airbox not worrying about water stuff.
i'm in dallas, texas, which is'nt that bad when it comes to rain seasons, but it can always have some unexpected floods and rain storms too, but as long as its not as low as those long-style cold air intakes that go down into bumper 4" from ground then i think it would be ok.
maybe i should just put the intake back to how Honda originally designed it, where that plastic tube goes from airbox across top of radiator and ends with hold by hood latch area, where it sucks air from gap between the hood and bumper area ???
why is'nt that good enough ???, how come everyone says to have a long extension or whatever, seems to me the stock design is good, cause at least they have it to where the air intake extension tube draws air from the front of the car (crack between hood & top of bumper), but its also high enough for water not to enter it.
any ideas, opinions, or whatever is cool
just buy one of these in the size you need and leave the intake where it goes under the bumper. if ever there is something blocking the intake, the bypass valve kicks in and will not allow the intake to become a giant straw. small price to pay for some insurance...
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i was thinking that would be the perfect solution, and the first thing i did was start researching, reading people's opinions about that AEM bypass valve thing online, and after reading i decided its not for me, cause there were a lot of people telling their stories about them, and lots said "trust me, they do not work", or "it only works if totally submerged in water", "you lose power", "after it bypasses it, then it closes up & sucks the water that was sitting in intake tube anyway", ..............
i saw way too many negative things about it, and so thats why i was thinking of other ways to place the extension tube to get air to airbox.
i am thinking i will just have the tube go down into hole by headlight, but just cut it shorter where it hangs up a little higher, but i'm sure it would get a lot of air rushing from the under car area, it seems like it would be better there than the engine bay getting heated air.
another thing i was wondering was, would it work ok if i had a "Y-shaped" adapter, like where the front of the stock airbox is, could you have two tubes drawing air from 2 different sources, but leading up to the single hole in front of airbox via the "Y-connector" thing ????? or does it need pressure in one single shot, like one route only direct??
also, i realise theres superchargers & turbos that push a lot of air into the engine and increase power, but how come i never have seen some thing out there thats like a device that kind of cools the air going into the intake, some way similar to an air conditioning system ??, like an A/C produces colder air than the natural air temperature, so is'nt there some little thing like a mini A/C or air cooler that goes in engine bay used to refridgerate the air coming into the air intake to make more power ??, or somehow inside the intake tube or whatever ??? (just curious)
i saw way too many negative things about it, and so thats why i was thinking of other ways to place the extension tube to get air to airbox.
i am thinking i will just have the tube go down into hole by headlight, but just cut it shorter where it hangs up a little higher, but i'm sure it would get a lot of air rushing from the under car area, it seems like it would be better there than the engine bay getting heated air.
another thing i was wondering was, would it work ok if i had a "Y-shaped" adapter, like where the front of the stock airbox is, could you have two tubes drawing air from 2 different sources, but leading up to the single hole in front of airbox via the "Y-connector" thing ????? or does it need pressure in one single shot, like one route only direct??
also, i realise theres superchargers & turbos that push a lot of air into the engine and increase power, but how come i never have seen some thing out there thats like a device that kind of cools the air going into the intake, some way similar to an air conditioning system ??, like an A/C produces colder air than the natural air temperature, so is'nt there some little thing like a mini A/C or air cooler that goes in engine bay used to refridgerate the air coming into the air intake to make more power ??, or somehow inside the intake tube or whatever ??? (just curious)
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i saw some ways to cool the air but not enough power to be worth the cost.
i was searching on google about different methods to refridgerate or cool the air thats going into the intake, in order to make more power, ........ and i came across these links, if you scan through them and scroll down, its people having discussions about different ways to cool the intake air, with links and a lot of technical stuff,
the 2nd link talks about overview of air temperature and stock vs aftermarket intakes, or just physcis of how it works,etc...
http://cl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=433798
http://www.psmdiesel.com/tech.php
i was searching on google about different methods to refridgerate or cool the air thats going into the intake, in order to make more power, ........ and i came across these links, if you scan through them and scroll down, its people having discussions about different ways to cool the intake air, with links and a lot of technical stuff,
the 2nd link talks about overview of air temperature and stock vs aftermarket intakes, or just physcis of how it works,etc...
http://cl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=433798
http://www.psmdiesel.com/tech.php
i turned the passenger bumper light into a small ram air port for awhile...i thought it worked pretty good, but the led light i put there was kind of dim. i felt a difference in seat of the pants. if you have the fender liner by your intake and beware in heavy rain, you'll be fine regardless.
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