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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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Hondata Coil Pack Retrofit (CPR) - AVAILABLE IN JUNE!

Overview
The Hondata Coil Pack Retrofit (CPR) allows the use of 'coil on plug' individual ignition coils on engines with distributor based ignition systems (D, B, F and H series Honda engines). It does this by replacing the stock coil and ignition with an electronic circuit which can drive igniter type individual ignition coils, such as used on later model Honda engines. A Hondata S300 system is required.

How much does the Hondata CPR cost? $395 AVAILABLE IN JUNE! PRE-ORDER NOW!

What does the Hondata CDR come with?
The Hondata CPR comes with a wiring harness for your coil packs, a coil pack controller and fly leads for connecting to your distributor and ECU. The CPR is typically positioned next to the ECU inside the car.


Benefits
* More spark energy than a single coil, allowing a larger plug gap and fewer misfires.
* Individual coils are more durable and less likely to fail than the stock igniter and coil.
* No exposed plug leads results in less interference to other electronics on the vehicle.
* Additionally, the Coil Pack Retrofit can drive a CDI controller if desired.

Requirements
* Hondata S300 system (not included).
* 4 x coils, Honda part number 30520-PVF-A01 (approx $60 retail and not included)

Optional parts
* 4 x coil seals, Honda part number 30522-RNA-A01 (approx $19 retail)

These coil seals provide a tighter fit than those supplied with the 30520-PVF-A01 coils.
Notes
* Resistor plugs must be used.
* The coils require a method of retention. B16A, B18C & F22A engines may use the stock plug cover. Other engines require an alternative method of coil retention (not supplied).
* This is a race product. Cranking times may be increased over a stock ignition set up.
* For detailed installation instructions click here.

FAQ
- Can I remove the distributor?
No. It is needed for the timing signals. See the CPR help file for more details.

CDI
- The Coil Pack Retrofit can be used with capacitive discharge ignition systems, such as M&W Pro-14, Autronic 500R or Motec 41011. Note that a CDI controller must be used - the Coil Pack Retrofit will not drive capacitive coils directly.
The CDI controller will be triggered from the Coil Pack Retrofit coil trigger outputs. The Coil Pack Retrofit produces a rising edge trigger for the coil packs, so the CDI controller should be configured to use a rising edge trigger.

Does this sytem work with any other engine management?
NOT AT THIS TIME. At this time ONLY hondata s300 works with it.
"The S300 needs to output a synchronization signal to the coil driver."
The system communicates with the ALTC (alternator control) output.

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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 03:42 PM
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I might look into some of these.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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Does this still require the ICM to be in the distrbutor? Do you need a distributor with this?
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 03:59 PM
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FAQ
- Can I remove the distributor?
No. It is needed for the timing signals. See the CPR help file for more details.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 04:10 PM
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Nice this is interesting.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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So for H series motors, we'll have to devise our own method of holding the coils in?
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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Once I get my motor running correctly I will def pick up a unit!
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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Wonder why is requires the s300 when there are similar systems that dont.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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what happens to the plug wires? I wish there was a picture to show how the distributor side of the engine will look.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k.civic.si
Wonder why is requires the s300 when there are similar systems that dont.
probably because it's a Hondata product.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 00Red_SiR
probably because it's a Hondata product.
figures....hondata product that requires s300...still needs the distributor.

Looks like I will either be waiting for the dsd4 to come out or go aem to get cop.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 00Red_SiR
what happens to the plug wires? I wish there was a picture to show how the distributor side of the engine will look.
you dont have the plug wires anymore. Just the distributor for the timing signals and this retrofit with its wires.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JustOneOrTwoPosts
you dont have the plug wires anymore. Just the distributor for the timing signals and this retrofit with its wires.
so the distributor looks like someone took the wires off it? I don't think I'd like the look of that...
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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They sell billet caps that cover the distributor replacing the stock cap.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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They sell billet caps that cover the distributor replacing the stock cap.
where? link please
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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Rosado Racing used to make em back in the day, saw them quite a bit.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 05:34 PM
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Default Re: NEW - Coil On Plug for Hondata s300 users is finally here!!!

Originally Posted by 00Red_SiR
so the distributor looks like someone took the wires off it? I don't think I'd like the look of that...
word! That would be ugly as ****.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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what we really want is to be able to eliminate the distributor

does hondata have any plans of coming out w/ a timing trigger kit to go along w/ the cop?
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 05:48 PM
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I'm guessing it has to run in wasted spark since it needs the oem sensors in the distributor. This is pretty much a more modern ultra mdi. Just that this one is a cop setup and the ultra used two external coils.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 05:54 PM
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Default Re: NEW - Coil On Plug for Hondata s300 users is finally here!!!

Originally Posted by NAH2B
what we really want is to be able to eliminate the distributor

does hondata have any plans of coming out w/ a timing trigger kit to go along w/ the cop?
Someone correct meif I am wrong but, I don't think it would be possible to run a cop setup with a timing trigger with s300 cause it only has one coil output. Closest thing that I can think of would be to try and make the aem epm work with it. T1 cam trigger would be out of the question since it's a hall effect sensor.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NAH2B
what we really want is to be able to eliminate the distributor
Exactly. So not only do you hafta buy s300, pay for the COP system, and THEN pay to update your S300, but you get to keep your dist.

I'm sorry, but this release is 3 or 4 years too late IMO. The EMS keeps looking better and better.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by clean rice
Exactly. So not only do you hafta buy s300, pay for the COP system, and THEN pay to update your S300, but you get to keep your dist.

I'm sorry, but this release is 3 or 4 years too late IMO. The EMS keeps looking better and better.
dont forget you still have to buy the coils.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NAH2B
what we really want is to be able to eliminate the distributor

does hondata have any plans of coming out w/ a timing trigger kit to go along w/ the cop?
this is really the point of a cop.....also how will this work on high power cars...8-900whp+
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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Hey man good things come to those that wait most ppl in my circle run s300 cuz its a solid system..... 600$ extra is a lil steep but who else is gonna have cop on the block? with a dizzy block of plate the motor loox.... mark from vrace in nyc has it done with aem cop loox good.... to those w/o s300 its a pricey venture but those with it its a nice long awaited upgrade!!
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Pull coil out and cut shaft after ignition wheels make a piece of alum to take place of cover and volla you have half a dis in your car
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