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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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Default Da integra Suspension makeover

Okay, so since most of the suspension on this car squeaks, squeals, and makes all kinds of fun noises, I wanna replace quite a bit of it with aftermarket.
No before you all begin, I don't wanna hear about how its not necessary for camber kits and aftermarket parts... I prefer aftermarket, and I intend to replace it with such.
So anyways, I'm going H&R springs, with Koni shocks.
Now what i need opinions on are;
energy suspension Master bushing set, is it decent, or is there another bushing set that is?
Lcas
front camber kit
rear camber kit

And I think thats it for now, but I will ask for sure, if I come across anything else. Thanks in advance!
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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I've never had a problem with anything from energy and plan on getting their master kit as well but as for lca's and camber kits you get what you pay for alot of people are gonna say skunk and f7 but if you want a quality product prepared to pay hope your suspension overhaul goes well
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 02:38 PM
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I agree w/JDM for the most part. IMHO, don't even purchase LCA's unless they're from F7....I'd keep the LCA's stock otherwise.

For F&R Camber kits I successfully used Buddy Club in the past but take a good hard look at SPC, I've heard and read a number of good things about them lately and their product is pretty affordable.

Any particular reason why your not inquiring about a rear sway bar in your OP? That'll make your most noticeable suspension difference. I found that this was the source of my DC "squeaks." After replacing the bar and endlinks the noise stopped!!!

GL
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by PreyStayShun
I agree w/JDM for the most part. IMHO, don't even purchase LCA's unless they're from F7....I'd keep the LCA's stock otherwise.

For F&R Camber kits I successfully used Buddy Club in the past but take a good hard look at SPC, I've heard and read a number of good things about them lately and their product is pretty affordable.

Any particular reason why your not inquiring about a rear sway bar in your OP? That'll make your most noticeable suspension difference. I found that this was the source of my DC "squeaks." After replacing the bar and endlinks the noise stopped!!!

GL
Because I don't know anything about sway bars, and I didn't wanna be like "blah blah blah bout buying a big sway bar"
What would be a appropriate size replacement? I think the ES kit comes with end links.
And what about x or h frame braces, anyone have any comment on those for a daily?
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RdmptionCivic
Because I don't know anything about sway bars, and I didn't wanna be like "blah blah blah bout buying a big sway bar"
What would be a appropriate size replacement? I think the ES kit comes with end links.
And what about x or h frame braces, anyone have any comment on those for a daily?
I can respect that to the fullest. In your spare time do a little bit of reading up about sway bars in general and you'll have a full understanding why this is such a great mod for our cars. Unfortunately I have a DC so I don't want to over promise or under deliver but my recommendation would be to look at Progress or Suspension Techniques for a rear bar on your car. Most likely 18-22mm bars, this will be the single most effective suspension item you can do (minus sturts/springs and/or coilovers) to prevent body roll etc... Take a look at some threads to figure out what size your front swaybar and go from there. You don't want to promote under/over steer by throwing a monstrous bar down there.

As far as x/h braces are you talking about these guys:
http://www.meganracing.com/uploadIma...%20bracket.jpg

I don't personally believe in them but some people swear by them...they're not exactly great for ground clearance either. But do a search, they're wildly popular. I call bull $hit.

All in all your totally on the right track...H&R/Konis, a nice swaybar, bushings = 1 badass ride. You'll be happy.

GL!
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by RdmptionCivic
Okay, so since most of the suspension on this car squeaks, squeals, and makes all kinds of fun noises, I wanna replace quite a bit of it with aftermarket.
No before you all begin, I don't wanna hear about how its not necessary for camber kits and aftermarket parts... I prefer aftermarket, and I intend to replace it with such.
So anyways, I'm going H&R springs, with Koni shocks.
Now what i need opinions on are;
energy suspension Master bushing set, is it decent, or is there another bushing set that is?
Lcas
front camber kit
rear camber kit

And I think thats it for now, but I will ask for sure, if I come across anything else. Thanks in advance!
What's with the closed, narrow-mindset on OEM parts? In some cases OEM IS the best quality you can get.

Why would you want to waste money on aftermarket parts that you don't need, and more than likely are not as reliable as OEM parts? If your front suspension squeaks, it's likely the upper control arm bushings. Get brand new OEM front upper control arms bushings with new bushings and ball joints included for around $190, or waste $250+ for aftermarket camber adjusting UCA's that have crap ball joints, crap bushings, could slip out of adjustment, have reduced shock tower clearance, and will cost more for alignments. Yeah that's smart.

With lowering springs you absolutely DO NOT need camber kits, period.

As for bushings I recommend HardRace or any of the other hard rubber bushing kits (PIC, etc). Those are around 1/3 the price of OEM replacements, do not require maintenance (no lubing or anything) and allow the suspension to properly move throughout its full range of motion.
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 02:02 PM
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What's with the closed, narrow-mindset on OEM parts? In some cases OEM IS the best quality you can get.

Why would you want to waste money on aftermarket parts that you don't need, and more than likely are not as reliable as OEM parts? If your front suspension squeaks, it's likely the upper control arm bushings. Get brand new OEM front upper control arms bushings with new bushings and ball joints included for around $190, or waste $250+ for aftermarket camber adjusting UCA's that have crap ball joints, crap bushings, could slip out of adjustment, have reduced shock tower clearance, and will cost more for alignments. Yeah that's smart.

With lowering springs you absolutely DO NOT need camber kits, period.

As for bushings I recommend HardRace or any of the other hard rubber bushing kits (PIC, etc). Those are around 1/3 the price of OEM replacements, do not require maintenance (no lubing or anything) and allow the suspension to properly move throughout its full range of motion.
I just prefer aftermarket... Idk why.. just do.
But thanks for the bushings recommendations.
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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ah man that's so much wasted money. But you're free to get what you want.
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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personally, my dc used to squeak alot
car was stock
to cease this i got some blox lower control arms 100 used
got a dc lower tie bar no more than 50
some tokico blues on grounds.. gotta looked more slamed than stock, --anything higher just isnt jdm--> imo
another thing ,, dont forget to put all the brushings on when slappin on the shocks and coils. ur suspension will knock on every lil bump
>>>>>DO NOT GO WITH CHEAP COILOVERS/SHOCKS
trust me your better off with stock for daily driver
tha most anoying ride ull ever have^^^

after all this there was a slight rattle when in high speeds
so i bought tha ebay strut kit. works the same ..came with upper front, c pillar, upper rear. lower tie bar, all polished... with an H brace
h brace works charms

(cnt have too stif rear without front support as well, u end up tailing out on sharp curves)

..next time i hit the freeway, the only noise i heard was my car hitting v tech
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