Clutch Release Shaft only moves a little? Cable wont reach?

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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 04:22 PM
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I'm doing my install and now I'm stuck. The release shaft will only move about a half an inch. I can't get the cable to reach it. How much is it supposed to move, do I need to drop the trans now? The trans went on fine this time and I replaced the release bearing. What is going on should that arm move more?
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 05:14 PM
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bump, we're ripping the engine back out... why is it doing that?
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 07:01 PM
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is the throw out bearing is installed incorrectly? the cable should reach.
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 07:09 PM
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Yeah it is, when the cable isn't installed how far will the clutch lever move? How hard is it to move it?
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 08:03 PM
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I took the engine and trans back out, I seperated them and when they are apart that clutch arm moves about 4 inches and the bearing slides back and forth, but when you mount it moves about a half an inch is this normal, I'd guess it's hitting the pressur plate?
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 09:02 PM
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Easy question for anyone who's done a swap, when the engine and trans are mated how far can you move the release arm? Very little like half an inch, or as much as you can when they are seperated?
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 10:12 PM
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Maybe no one understands what I'm talking about, I took a picture, when the trans isn't mounted on the engine this lever travels about 3 inches up and down, when the trans is mount it travels around a half an inch.

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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 11:50 PM
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ya it does thatare you swaping a b16 what you have to do is put the cluth cable on the lever and unscrew the mounting bracket and pull on the cable till you can screw the bracket back on or you can use a 90-93 teg cable for a little more ajustment hope i helped.........peace
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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 01:37 AM
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yeah thats what i usally do, i put the cable on the relese shaft first then i bolt down the 2 14mm bolts that holds the bracket to the tranny, try that
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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 07:02 AM
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I had the same problem with my b16a/crx.
A friend of mine modified the bracket on the tranny so the cable could reach.




[Modified by Trevor, 9:03 AM 9/28/2002]
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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 07:16 AM
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That sounds about right. Once its mounted the bearing is only going to move up until it hits the clutch. If this is an old clutch, then the fingers will be out farther making it even worse. Make sure you have the return spring behind the fingers on the fork in the little indentation, and NOT between the bearing and the fork.

I don't mean to sound like an *** because I'm sure you know what you're doing, but when you install the cable sometimes you need to put it in the lever at the bottom. Then put the bracket on the cable. Then pull the bracket up to the spot on the trans where it bolts and bolt it in.

I hope this make sense. If the lever moved the full four inches with it mounted then it wouldn't be doing anything. It should only move until it hits the pressure plate. Once the cable is attached it then should move a little further (possibly not the full 4 inches, but probably about 1.5 - 2 ). You really can't disengage a clutch by hand without some serious pulling.
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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 09:16 AM
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At the time I was installing the bearing I put the forks behind the bearing and clip. I bet that's what it is I'll go uninstall the bearing and check both manuals when re-installing it. Thanks for the help, it's good to hear that mine wasn't the only one coming short.
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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 11:14 AM
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Yep he was right, the forks have an indented spot and slide inbetween the bearing and the clip, this was much different than how it was before. The arm now has about 2 inches of motion, thanks a lot everyone, installing the rest tonight.
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