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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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ok, story is i recently picked up a type r almost complete long block and im going to slowly put it together. what i need to know now is what parts do i need? This is my first swap and a homie is gonna be putting it in while i knock back beers and treat him to pizza. haha but ima be learning along the way.

the swap is going into a 1997 EK

mainly i know the main components. what i know is i still need
ecu (which ecu runs with a b18c (type R) im not suree)
harness(ppl telling me to go OBD1 and others saying stay OBD2 is OBD1 just easier cuz of less sensors?)
tranny(GSR/B16/ITR)
crank pulley
fuel regulator
i might need a new dizzy if i switch OBD? or somethin i have no clue

that's all im for sure i need for now. how would i go upon seeing what else i need?
is there a site that shows what i need or something that deals with mainly swaps?

any hints/feedback negatively or positively is nice idc. i just wanna get this in asap :D. thanks in advance whoever helps me out.

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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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what year and trim car is it going into? We need this info to be able to help you.
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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what year and trim car is it going into? We need this info to be able to help you.
oh right. haha see thats how little knowledge i have of this. its going into an 1997 EK
should probably put that in the first post.
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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you need to change your dizzy nam to which obd you decide to go with..honestly since your a 97 right? you have everything for obd2 mind as well go that path cause you'll need the obd2 to obd1 harness (*SPECIFIC FOR YOUR CAR TOO),ECU, and injectors, and might be some other stuff i'm missing out, but if you really want go obd1 if your planning in the future to tune it* no experience with that, but most people say it is much easier..but don't quote me on that.
and...
-motor mounts
-missing sensors that didn't come with the motor..
-and this one is maybe i'm not completely sure someone correct me ht..
alternator and starter?

*mind as well do the tuneup since it's out too..(spark plugs, spark plug wires,water pump, timing belt, etc..)
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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*plus don't forget to get some of the stuff resealed i forgot what he said that part that was leaking a little bit!
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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Find yourself a downloadable FSM(factory service manual) for your car and the car that the engine came from, that will give you all them information, sensors, brackets, etc. that you're going to need.

IMO, stay obd2, since that's what your car and engine are, keep it simple.
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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you will also need a l bracket and and to go obd1 you will not need to change the dizzy obd2 dizzy's can be used on obd1 cars
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 11:02 PM
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You cannot use a OBD1 harness without a lot of cutting and splicing.


Do you know what year the ITR motor came from? You are OBD2a, if the motor is OBD2a, it will be easier hooking it all up.

Keep it OBD2, and then if you wish buy a OBD2a to OBD1 jumper harness and run a p28 or another ecu.
You are not required to run the ITR ecu. But if you don't you'll need to get another ecu, chip it and it should be tuned.

By the way, EK really doesn't help us to much. We need to know what model the car is... Your car is not a EK!
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 05:02 PM
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You cannot use a OBD1 harness without a lot of cutting and splicing.


Do you know what year the ITR motor came from? You are OBD2a, if the motor is OBD2a, it will be easier hooking it all up.

Keep it OBD2, and then if you wish buy a OBD2a to OBD1 jumper harness and run a p28 or another ecu.
You are not required to run the ITR ecu. But if you don't you'll need to get another ecu, chip it and it should be tuned.

By the way, EK really doesn't help us to much. We need to know what model the car is... Your car is not a EK!
ej6 is his model i believe..and if his is OBD2B why would it be harder just wondering..cause they have the obd2b - obd1 conversion harness as well and just run an obd1 ecu? no?

http://www.boomslang.us/obd2to1.htm

or you can get a cheaper one on ebay up to you.
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by phoxking
ej6 is his model i believe..and if his is OBD2B why would it be harder just wondering..cause they have the obd2b - obd1 conversion harness as well and just run an obd1 ecu? no?

http://www.boomslang.us/obd2to1.htm

or you can get a cheaper one on ebay up to you.
Where did he post that? I must have missed it.

96-98 is OBD2a, unless everything was switched to 99-00 (OBD2b) The plugs are different between OBD2a and OBD2b. Where the engine harness plugs into the car is different.

If his motor is OBD2a, almost everything will plug right in without any problems. I think there are some different plugs with OBD2b.
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 11:42 PM
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the itr is a 2000 and i know its not an ek but everyone ends up calling it an ek. it sounds better too
the dude said none of the sensors are missing but iunno where all the sensors are so i havent checked.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by EKtheory
the itr is a 2000 and i know its not an ek but everyone ends up calling it an ek. it sounds better too
the dude said none of the sensors are missing but iunno where all the sensors are so i havent checked.
might need a little more cash since then your obd2b motor going in obd2a chassis.

http://www.boomslang.us/obd2to2.htm

so if u want to go obd1..someone help me on this one lol
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 04:58 AM
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sounds like this isnt gonna be an easy swap lmao. just save up and take it to demonworks LOL.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 05:47 AM
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Use a '96 - '98 Civic harness, modifiy it to work (you'll have to add vtec and knock sensor wiring if using something other than an EX harness) and you'll need to extend a few connectors no matter what harness you use. Run an OBD2A ITR ECU, or run a conversion harness and an OBD1 ECU.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 06:45 AM
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come on man... get the pics goin
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by EKtheory
sounds like this isnt gonna be an easy swap lmao. just save up and take it to demonworks LOL.
true, if you want it done asap go there, but whats the fun in that =D? plus everyone will know your blue ek has an itr for sure..just saying
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 05:12 PM
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gee thanks for telling everyone i have a blue ek now everyone in oc that checks this thread will know that blue ek has an itr LOL. FAIL ryan

might as well take it to demon works now
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 05:19 PM
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Damn. That's how cars get stolen. Get your security installed now.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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thanks for jinxing it ! i blame u too now :D
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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Deffinetly get an alarm right NOW! and throw a couple well hidden kill switches.
I wouldn't put anything on my car before it had a well installed alarm/kill switches. Let alone a ITR motor.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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guess ill just get all the **** for my motor first then get an alarm and kill switches then install the motor the same day with the alarm and killswitches
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 05:51 PM
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are crank pulleys interchangeable?

how do u know if ur getting an itr crank pulley or a different series crank pulley
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by EKtheory
are crank pulleys interchangeable?

how do u know if ur getting an itr crank pulley or a different series crank pulley
not sure on that one..my bad your repainting though! *i won't tell anyone ahahah
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 05:04 AM
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now everyone knows im repainting LOLOLOLOL
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