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Old Sep 26, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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I'm putting in the Quaife.
I was wondering if anyone knows of a shim kit for the H22's transmission?
I want to give my installer some shims to adjust the preload. I want to take a stab at buying some shims in the hopes that I buy some that can actually be used for the installation.
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Old Sep 26, 2002 | 04:01 PM
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Hi Ray! If your mechanic does not know what kind of shims to use, I would seriously look for another person to do the install who has experience installing LSDs in FWD Honda cars. You should be able to use the stock differential shims from your Honda dealer.

Andrew

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Old Sep 26, 2002 | 05:03 PM
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Sup Andrew....my installer does know what kind of shims to use but there's ShimA - ShimT http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...++DIFFERENTIAL
I'm not going to know which one to use until I get the stock differential out since there might be machining tolerance differences with the Quaife.
If there's no kit available (as there are for other cars) he's going to be using the stock Honda ones from the dealer (who I hope has them in stock).

OK slightly different question.....for those of you who have the Quaife installed.....do you remember which shim you had to use when setting the preload?


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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 06:31 AM
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When my Quaife was put in, the "N" shim was used. I say "N", because thats the only one I cant find, I have all the shims but that one. My advice to you would be to do what I did and buy all of them, unless you want to wait a couple of days to get your car back together. My transmission guy had to try a few different shims to get the preload just right. And I should also mention that some of these shims were on backorder when I bought mine (1-2 months ago), which would have been a real disaster if my car was in pieces and the shim we needed wasnt available. Trust me, just buy all of them.

Edit: I dont think there are any "shim kits" that have all the shims in it, but I guess it wouldnt hurt to ask...


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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 08:33 AM
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Thanks. I was thinking that I was going to have to end up doing that anyway (buying all or every other shim).
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 08:59 AM
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Thanks. I was thinking that I was going to have to end up doing that anyway (buying all or every other shim).
That sounds like a great idea. You should be able to at least return the unopened used ones anyway, right?

Andrew
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 09:10 AM
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Thanks. I was thinking that I was going to have to end up doing that anyway (buying all or every other shim).

That sounds like a great idea. You should be able to at least return the unopened used ones anyway, right?

Andrew
HAHA EXACTLY what I plan on doing. I just checked http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com's return policy and it's all going to work out fine.
Thanks again guys.
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 09:23 AM
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nighttime. with the quaife do you feel that the car preform better on curvy road. I noticed that most Honda when going around a left curve tend to roll more than going around a right curve. It feels as if the right tire is not getting all the power to the ground and it's going to skid if you go any faster(on a left curve). On the right curve, it feels like the car is on rail which I was wondering if it has to do with the left wheel being the wheel with the power to the ground.
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 06:46 PM
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Im not so sure you can return these things. The web page sounds like you can as long as the part is unopened, but the invoice I have for my shims and the other parts said that there are no returns on special order parts, and these shims, and the diff bearings are listed as special order. You might want to ask first. I thought about returning them, but decided to keep them in case I ever had to have the diff bearings replaced.

Also, if you want to save some money or ordering the shims and the differential bearings (as well as any other part youll buy from them, plus labor at a lot of shops), consider joining Honda Club ( http://www.hondaclub.com/ ). I got each shim for 4.48 instead of the list of 5.97 (saved $29.80) and saved a bit over $20 on the diff bearings. Not only that, I got a discount on the labor (10-15%) at the shop who installed it. That adds up to a lot of money saved. Check it out.
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 07:10 PM
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nighttime. with the quaife do you feel that the car preform better on curvy road. I noticed that most Honda when going around a left curve tend to roll more than going around a right curve. It feels as if the right tire is not getting all the power to the ground and it's going to skid if you go any faster(on a left curve). On the right curve, it feels like the car is on rail which I was wondering if it has to do with the left wheel being the wheel with the power to the ground.
Well, thats kinda a hard question to answer. The way I have my car set up now, it doesnt roll a whole lot going through corners. I put poly bushings on the front swaybar (end link grommets and swaybar bushings) and I had an adjustable rear swaybar made, so it already corners well. After the Quaife through, you can keep the power on in most long sweeping corners a lot longer and harder. I try not to push the car too much on the street though, so once I do some more autocrosses with it, Ill be able to answer this better. But as far as the car feeling different in left and right corners, that might actually be true, as cars can corner differently in left and right corners, or it could be a percieved difference. I dont know that ive noticed that in my car.

Now one thing to keep in mind is that if the car is understeering because you are going into a corner wrong, or too fast, the Quaife probably wont help if you are still on the throttle, and will probably make things worse because you can get so much more power to the ground. I did have to get used to that, but now that I have, I feel that the Quaife has done nothing but improve my car's performance. Also, it helps a lot in the rain, I can actually leave stoplights with almost no wheelspin, I feel a slight slip, and thats it.
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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 07:05 AM
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Im not so sure you can return these things. The web page sounds like you can as long as the part is unopened, but the invoice I have for my shims and the other parts said that there are no returns on special order parts, and these shims, and the diff bearings are listed as special order. You might want to ask first. I thought about returning them, but decided to keep them in case I ever had to have the diff bearings replaced.

Also, if you want to save some money or ordering the shims and the differential bearings (as well as any other part youll buy from them, plus labor at a lot of shops), consider joining Honda Club ( http://www.hondaclub.com/ ). I got each shim for 4.48 instead of the list of 5.97 (saved $29.80) and saved a bit over $20 on the diff bearings. Not only that, I got a discount on the labor (10-15%) at the shop who installed it. That adds up to a lot of money saved. Check it out.
Thank you nighttime.
I figure this....if I can't return the shims, I'll sell them to the next Prelude owner who would need them and they can just buy the one shim I used...and then I guess they can do the same thing to the next Prelude owner who wants the Quaife.
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 08:17 PM
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Thanks for the reply Nighttime. I'm going to do my clutch soon so I hope to get a quaife in there while i'm at it. Hope i'm as happy as you are if I get one.
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