to hondamotorsonline....The motor runs nice, considering it was out of a wrecked car that was on fire. We found the intake manifold was fried and had sooo much **** in it, altenator belt wasn't there, thottle cable was missing, incomplete shift linkage, broking thermostat, leaking head gasket, and a bet up spark plug cover...lol, didn't really care about the spark plug cover but everything else was ****. It runs though

 

my tps sensor was broken but got a good deal and tripled my $$$ when i parted it out



[Modified by vtec69, 1:53 PM 9/26/2002]

 

what kind of engine?

Did you say anything to them when you saw it's condition?

 

to Honda motors online from me to

 

Did you guys try to talk to Steve about the problems?

 

to hell with steve, he made me pay shipping on my shifter cables that should of come with my swap in the first place

 

Doesn't sound like the HMO I dealt with........Steve was very good. Someting doesn't sound right........................................

 

there are risks buying engines people. It's not like they rebuild them and give you knew parts.

But if he made you pay shipping for something that should have came with it...

then

 

AHHH FRIGGING CRAP! I can't make up my mind of where to buy my swap now... Who Sells RELIABLE GOOD swaps?!?!?!?

 

still, I would buy from HMO.

I've heard more good than bad from them.

 

u CANNOT expect a clutch, which is a WEAR ITEM to be good, loser, i got a good clutch on my b16 i got fm him and guess what. its laying in the corner, becasue its a WEAR ITEM and should be replaced before uput the motor in.

i had the wrong half shaft for my swap. i called steve and he sent it out quick with free shipping for me. i think that some of u guys neglected to talk to him about these things, cause when i had issues with my stuff he quickly and promptly adressed my issues and fixed my problems

 

I agree with JOHNZM, you should replace the clutch while the motor is out anyway......I will vouch for STEVE at HMO. Ive got 9 (yes, nine) complete swaps from him in the past year or so and all of them are up and running. There were a few things missing here and there, but he did make good on them. Sometimes it took awhile before I received the stuff, but he pulled through in the end.

I am currently waiting on a downpipe and Intermediate shaft for one of the packages in the last batch I got from him. Im sure he'll make good on this shortcoming too.

I dont complain about stuff like cut radiator hoses or worn clutches, because you should replace these items anyway during the swap. I always replace the timing belt, water pump, radiator hoses, thermostat, at the very LEAST in all my swaps. If the customer wants to pass on this, I make sure I make a note of it on their invoice. Fortunatley, I havent had customers take this short cut.

Aside from some missing parts on a few of the packages, I will continue to do business with Steve at HondaMotorsOnline. He will make it right for you. Just don't be a dick to him and he will treat you with the same respect you want to be treated with

 

NOW YOU KNOW, exactly why Import Builders does not sell ANy used motors.

Every motor that leaves we open up, replace the bearings, new oil pump, new valve seals, new head gasket, new oil pump, new timing belt.

At the minimum.

Buying used motors is way too risky.

Risk 3k on a piece of junk motor? Or spend like 4500-5000 on a motor thats practically bran new?

hondamotors online seems to be a good deal though/

Jeff

 

"Risk 3k on a piece of junk motor? "

The motor I bought wasn't a piece of junk. Some people don't have the funds to buy a BRAND NEW motor. You talk like all used motors trash.


[Modified by tazmoe, 7:04 AM 9/27/2002]

 

Jeff,

Oh believe me, I would love to change all those things you mentioned, but not all customers have the money to do so. They need money for the labor, ECU, axles ( if they are in bad shape, the shipping, the mounts ( for EF's ), all the other little things that will be needed aside from the actual engine itself.

Sometimes I don't even charge the customer LABOR to change extra maintainence stuff like dist. cap/rotor, plugs, wires, Timing belt, etc. if they are willing to buy the parts.

What do gain from that?? Well, I may have not made extra money on the labor of those extra parts, but I tell ya one thing, I feel better about that swap leaving my shop if the customer didnt cut corners on the expenses.

That swap will represent my company image. It must run great. I trust that HondaMotorsOnline will not sell BUNK motors to me to install in customers cars and I trust that my customers will not be cheap and want me to "half-***" things due to their limited budget. You must plan your budget before the swap begins.

I spend much time with customers explaining what will be involved with completing their swap, their options, and what to expect.

Yes, there are RISKS in buying a used JDM motor. There is risk in buying anything used. But if Steve at HondaMotorsOnline can take care of me, than I can take care of the customer. I havent had one BUNK motor from him yet.

I can't say much for P+G Auto


Years ago, when ZC's were the craze.......I bought some through Revolutions Motorsports ( Eau Claire, WI ) He got them through GO MOTORS. They were all fine. I just had him get them for me, because I was not doing swaps on a regular basis.

Then, when I found my company doing more and more ZC and B-series swaps, I got some on my own through P+G Auto. The price was fair, the B16's were fine, but it only took 2 BUNK ZC's in a batch I ordered from them to not do business anymore. They said they would take care of the ZC's, but I would have to pay the shipping. What the heck!!! I already lost on time and labor....now shipping??? Why would they want the BUNK ZC's back anyway? I will be happy to send them back, but Im not going to pay shipping....especially when they were BUNK!!!

HondaMotorsOnline?????.........not one bad.....so far. Talk to any of my satisfied Hybrid customers in Minnesota, they are not disappointed.

You got to look at the whole picture. I can do the best possible swap/labor and not cut corners.....but if the motor is BUNK, it will bring the whole job down.

It works the other way also. Good product and good installation go hand in hand.

 

My block is ok from HMO minus the oil pump (why not replace it?), oil pan (dented, and I didnt catch it when I was there.) Engine doesnt have any knocks, so Im thinking its ok.

The head was a different story.... Bad valve guides, stripped spark plug hole, broken and welded cam cover (steve sent me a new one, Thanks Steve), Broken header stud, another broken bolt (underneath plug cover), and some corrosion on the water fittings. All things that I know he didnt know were there, because they do not inspect the engines. A common practice is to open the oil fill hole and look in with a flashlight. No milky white? Great you have a good motor with a good headgasket, should start. Thanks for playing!

I guess the previous owner couldnt get his antifreeze / water mixtures right? I picked my engine up in person, and felt it was the best engine he had at the time. I was down in LA for a wedding, so no time to really look around. Knowing what I know now, I might ask to open a few things up before I purchase another engine from anyone. Steve does cover his *** when he tells you to change waterpump, thermostat, timing belt, tensioner etc. Say for instance when you do the waterpump, and thermostat, and pretend you dont see anything else that needs replacing (connecting pipe o rings) on a 11 year engine, then its your bad. I found that when I went to change the things he recommended, I wound up doing a bunch of other things also.

I probably could of just thrown the engine in and it would of ran fine. For how long though?? Who knows how bad it would of smoked also?

So After I replaced everything but some of the fittings, main bearings, connecting rods, pistons and rings....She started up on the third try, and throws no codes. Im still crossing my fingers on my tranny because I havent got to drive it yet.

Overall I would buy from HMO again, but only in person. Now that I've been through one of these engines, I would show up with some tools and hopefully he would let me "look inside a couple" or atleast compression check the ones Im interested in. Having bought there before I dont see why he wouldnt. Afterall he did throw in the SIR linkage with an XSI motor at the expense of a spark plug cover. I thought that was a pretty good deal.

Purchasing a used motor from JDM land was exactly what I expected. You roll the dice and see what you get. If you dont replace things now, you will later, the big question is how much later? The engines only have 30-40k, but it took ten years to put that on? Thats alot of wear and tear...

Alright im done rambling. I truely feel that HMO is ligit, even though I've had some negative feelings towards the company. Like stated tons of times before.... Your expectations cant be that high of a 10 year motor that for some reason has been "junked" and sent to the States for us to play with.

Monty

1991 CRX SI
1991 B16 J1
Almost to V-TEC


[Modified by Monty, 3:22 PM 9/28/2002]

 

Just last weekend I purchased a JDM 1994 B18C motor from Steve at Honda Motors Online. Because I live in Southern California, I was able to go to Arleta and personally pick my motor up. When I arrived, they had just finished pulling the motor from the front clip, and it looked as if they had just washed it off.

The motor looked clean, but it is so hard to tell without really tearing it apart. Steve took the oil cap off and showed me that there was no "milky white" on the inside. He then pointed out several of the sensors and told me that they guranteed "no sensors broken." He also said that they had just test the compression and he said it was 200 across the board.

The motor was leaking oil, due to a loosened oil plug. Other than that, everything else looked fine. Steve even gave me brand new shift linkage, and complete front GSR brake swap.

When I dropped the motor off with the guy who is doing my swap, he looked over the motor and told me that he would not be able really tell the condition of the motor until he started to take it apart. After a few hours of analyzing, we found a broken KNOCK SENSOR.

I called Steve about the knock sensor and he said that I could come and pick another one up. Upon arriving at HMO, he had one of his buddies get me another sensor that wasn't broken in two, and I was on my way.

So far, I am replacing the timing belt, thermostat, alternator belt, spark plugs, rotor, valve gasket, clutch/flywheel, header, upper and lower radiator hoses, and possibly the water pump and tensioner pulley(based on their condition when we change the timing belt).

This is my first swap, and I am a little nervous to see how the motor is going to run, but for the most part, I feel really good that I bought my motor from Steve at HMO. I guess I will have to wait and see what kind of motor I got when it is put in this coming weekend.

Overall, to Steve at Honda Motors Online.

Cliff Notes: Picked motor up from Steve, gave me new shift linkage and GSR front brake swap for free, broken knock sensor replaced no questions asked, waiting for the installation of the motor next weekend.

Ryan

 

o think is one of the best guys to deal with hes always willing to help his customers

 

I bought a 1st gen b16a from steve and it runs great. I replaced:

clutch
thermostat
water pump
timing belt and tensioner
alternator and crank pulley
cap and rotor
plugs and wires
valve cover and oil pan gaskets
cam seals

I had the motor running for a month and the distributor went out. I called up steve and he sent me a new one within three days.

to HMO

 

i live in nebraska. shipping for my first gen b16a was 200 bucks. to the shop.

 

from honda motors online

steve is a good guy.

 

Stolencrx:
I see your finally getting a motor, who are you having install it?
Good Luck!

 

does hmo sell d series motors? if not who does?

 

i heard both good and bad things about HMO, if you really wanna be sure about the motor your buying why not pick it up yourself. you get to see it first hand and check if anythin's broken/missing. Yeah i guess id still buy from HMO if i need a motor, they are local to me.

 

Hope you don't get fucked.... First B16 we bought from the the oil pan was smashed and the thrust washer fell out destroyin the bottom end.... We just got a GSR two months ago, the block was crack.... I don't give a ****... anytime **** comes up about HMO or Steve I'm gonna talk ****... to HMO