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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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Default non vtec sohc d16 zc engine please help

im about to get a d16 zc engine to swap in my ef crx and i was wondering if anyone can tell me what i can do to her to sqeez as much power out of her without going into the block>>>>any help??? change to the d16z6 head or a different intake manifold or anything at all im all ears
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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 07:08 AM
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don't buy it.

get a DOCH VTEC.

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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by WigginsSiR
don't buy it.

get a DOCH VTEC.

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You can get anything out of a Single cam unless you go boost.

Save your money and get a DOHC just as stated above.
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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by WigginsSiR
don't buy it.

get a DOCH VTEC.

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You are a moron.

Not everyone can or wants to swap to a twin cam motor.
Originally Posted by EK NOOB
You can get anything out of a Single cam unless you go boost.

Save your money and get a DOHC just as stated above.
Same to you, more of it.

Since you called it the d16 zc I assume you mean the single cam. It's like a d16a6 just a touch warmer from the factory.

There is a lot to do, what kind of power are you looking for? What's your budget? Outside of no bottom end work what can you or want to do?

What's the motor for?
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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by EK NOOB
How about you kiss my ars. Your the moron.

Theres not a whole lot you can do to a single cam unless you have LOTS of money to play with, or you go boost.

Single cam on a budget is not going to get you ANYWHERE
Wow, 2 typos in your first insult. I'm impressed.

Prove me wrong, it's not going to be on the same level but to say it's not possible is a blatent lie.

Did I say it would be fast? If you wanted fast cheap Honda would not be your go to brand anyway. Stop being upset you were scolded for acting foolish.

Just to add some information to this and even more prove you wrong, a cheap setup for under 1k. Decent I/H/E (worry most on header) A final Diff and a exospeed sr909 cam was a setup I had. Ran quite well faster than my stock b16 to boot.

Edit: It would seem a post was deleted, but I'll leave the information up here as to help the OP.
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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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Wow, 2 typos in your first insult. I'm impressed.

Prove me wrong, it's not going to be on the same level but to say it's not possible is a blatent lie.

Did I say it would be fast? If you wanted fast cheap Honda would not be your go to brand anyway. Stop being upset you were scolded for acting foolish.

Just to add some information to this and even more prove you wrong, a cheap setup for under 1k. Decent I/H/E (worry most on header) A final Diff and a exospeed sr909 cam was a setup I had. Ran quite well faster than my stock b16 to boot.

Edit: It would seem a post was deleted, but I'll leave the information up here as to help the OP.
I'm sorry that I spelled something wrong on the internets (pun intended)

But spending money on a "decent" I/H/E would run you the roughly the same amount as a B-series motor.

I also NEVER stated that it would be impossible, but more harder to achieve in a SC.

And yes I deleted my post because I don't like to fight or argue with some random who is 1500 miles away.

We obviously have differnet opinons about single cams, but no need to call someone a moron for suggesting something different.
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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by EK NOOB
I'm sorry that I spelled something wrong on the internets (pun intended)

But spending money on a "decent" I/H/E would run you the roughly the same amount as a B-series motor.

I also NEVER stated that it would be impossible, but more harder to achieve in a SC.

And yes I deleted my post because I don't like to fight or argue with some random who is 1500 miles away.

We obviously have differnet opinons about single cams, but no need to call someone a moron for suggesting something different.
Suggestion is not a forceful opinion it is merely the adding an idea while not being over bearing or shutting others down.

A decent used D header can be had for very little, making an intake maybe 50 or so. Exhaust depending on your goals and craftsman skills will in price.

You stated and it's quoted you "can" (another typo how cute as it agrees with me) not get anything, that's just flat untrue.

That's why you need to stop posting that way, it's one thing to say I don't think it's worth it but to say it's not possible is another? Are you following how the simple wording is creating an issue?

You are spreading a mistruth due to poor wording. I really don't care about what you think is a better motor I just don't want a blatant untruth out there. Thats all.

FWIW, I've ran both and have a twin cam in my car now.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 06:19 AM
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wow.......but anyways i dont want to go dohc this is a project car i want to build a sohc....and i was just wondering what i can do to it with out going into the block. i will be going into the blck soon just want to get all the bolt ons and swapping of parts done like puting a head on it from D16Z6 and get the ecu for vtec that should give me a tiny more hp
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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You could have a duel cam without spending money on the mounts have decient power with the dohc zc about the same as the d16z6 power wise. Also dont have to spend money to go OBD1 and wire up vtec.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 10:51 AM
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B18a1 is a cheap dohc, but I rock a Z6 in my crx and its flys... Cant wait to put my turbo kit on it again (was in my 93 coupe w/ turbo) 440whp in a crx is going to fly!!
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 02:53 PM
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sohc zc vtec engines run nice. they come with 140hp. so a nice intake,header, intake manifold,2 1/4in exhaust and a chipped ecu and it will run nice. Then if you want to boost it later throw in some arp rod bolts and head studs and a thick headgasket and you can put like a t28 turbo for a fast spool and 300hp.
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 06:06 AM
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ok so i have decided to swap the head on the sohc non vtec and slap the head off of a D16z6...what all do i need to make this go as smooth as possible...ecu? head gasket? oil line? exc........???
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 06:07 AM
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Default Re: non vtec sohc d16 zc engine please help

and oh ya its in my 89 crx si
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 06:13 AM
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Default Re: non vtec sohc d16 zc engine please help

Go into the FAQ and read up on the mini me conversion. It's really straight forward.
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jdm ef8 89
You could have a duel cam without spending money on the mounts have decient power with the dohc zc about the same as the d16z6 power wise. Also dont have to spend money to go OBD1 and wire up vtec.
Why would anyone want to swap in a twin cam if its got the same power??? Just to be cool??

Stick with the single cam if thats what you want... If you are using a d16 bottom end and putting a z6 head on it, its not a "Mini me" either.

Some of you people need to learn what you are talking about before you give out advice...
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Madmood
If you are using a d16 bottom end and putting a z6 head on it, its not a "Mini me" either.

Some of you people need to learn what you are talking about before you give out advice...
If you are referring to me about the "mini me" I merely stated to read up on it since it's the same amount of work.

EDIT: First two links in the FAQ relating to a "mini me" are based on the 88-91 Si block. Maybe you should tell the mods of this forum (and every other forum for that matter) that a 1.6 converted to VTEC isn't a mini me and should change all of their info.

DISCLAIMER: I'm not calling you out "MADMOOD" and saying that you're wrong because I actually do agree with you. But it's just one of those things that seem to be generally excepted as such.
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 07:17 AM
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24TEN. ... I was not referring to you. I was just making that statement in case someone else wanted to chime in and give out false info.. This thread is full of it
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 07:19 AM
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Default Re: non vtec sohc d16 zc engine please help

ok well i couldnt find the mini me faq.....but what do yall think i should do like i said this a little side project that i want to do with a sohc should i go vtec or not what bolt ons should i consider
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 07:50 AM
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Just remember that if you decide to go with the vtec head , to do it right. You will spend about $400-$500 on jumper harness, ecu , obd1 distributor , o2 sensor. Yes I know it can be done for less , but if you ever want someone to tune it right that is the route to go...
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by enigma2446
ok well i couldnt find the mini me faq...
Top of the forum for "Honda CRX/EF Civic", 4th link or so. It says FAQ. Then go down to "engine and swap" and click the appropriate link that you are interested in and READ READ READ.

EDIT: Since you're in SD you should go to AsianKars (Ali at the top of the junkyards). He's closing up shop today and moving to LA. He is selling all that he has down here so you might be able to get some stuff cheap for your car.
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 06:35 AM
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ok but i still havnt had any input from anybody to sqeez a liitle more power out of the car like i said is there a different intake manifold i can slap on it to get more power like of an ex or somethin or anything related to stuff like that
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 06:52 AM
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Default Re: non vtec sohc d16 zc engine please help

also would it be smart to slap a different tranny on it i dont know what tranny but i here that some tranys make i big difference
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 07:58 AM
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Intake Manifold-It's said the 96-00 EX manifold is the best. I don't know how much truth there is to that. If you're car is stock anyway you probably won't notice much (if at all).

Transmission-Generally speaking, for 4th gens, JDM (DOHC) ZC>EX>Si>LX/DX>HF/STD
They all have their pros and cons, it's up to you to decide what suits your needs. If you have the knowledge and skill you can mix and match gears and final drives to make a transmission tailored to your particular needs.
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