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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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hey guys im in the middle of a turbo build and im looking into widebands..

im running the hondata s300 and was wondering if the PLX M300 was the only wideband that will work with hondata...

also im very new to this so bare with me but do u have to wire the wideband to the ecu of does it connect itself through the stock O2 sensor plug?

sorry if some of this sounds stupid like i said im very new to this

heres so more info if you need it

98 acura integra gsr
b18c
obd1 p28 hondata s300 ecu
cars bone stock so far no ectra guages or tuning still has stock ecu

if im missing any key info please let me know
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 12:52 PM
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plx is a good choice. but hondata will work with other widebands also.
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 01:46 PM
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lc-1
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 02:07 PM
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just bought innovate mtx-L digital wideband, its awesome! i also have s300 and they work great together!
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 90crxs4c
just bought innovate mtx-L digital wideband, its awesome! i also have s300 and they work great together!
alright so did you have to wire it into the ecu board itsetlf or does it plug/wire into the stock O2 sensor wires and just transmitt from there to the ECU?
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 05:41 PM
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There are 5 wires, red(power), black(ground), white(optional dimming feature), yellow( analog 1) and brown analog 2), you take the analog 1 wire and tap into the eld( electrical load detector) pin in the ecu and set the hondata wideband input to eld. Keep the stock sensor connected, all hondata needs is the one eld wire to read the wideband! Thats the beauty of it!
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 90crxs4c
There are 5 wires, red(power), black(ground), white(optional dimming feature), yellow( analog 1) and brown analog 2), you take the analog 1 wire and tap into the eld( electrical load detector) pin in the ecu and set the hondata wideband input to eld. Keep the stock sensor connected, all hondata needs is the one eld wire to read the wideband! Thats the beauty of it!
alright so how bout a diagram or some link to show me the ELD pin....and do u just sotter it in?
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 09:47 PM
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Innovate MTX-L.. I like :-)
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bonesx0x2x4x
alright so how bout a diagram or some link to show me the ELD pin....and do u just sotter it in?
ELD pin can be found on http://www.phearable.net/tech
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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 04:55 AM
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Best one IMO is the NGK with the upgraded NTK sensor, AEM UEGO good for the buck...
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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by YZFR6AVID
Best one IMO is the NGK with the upgraded NTK sensor, AEM UEGO good for the buck...
Innovate MTX-L = best for the buck at $199
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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mtber
Innovate MTX-L = best for the buck at $199
does the mtx have the calibration "issues" like the LC1?
does it have the heater wiring like the LC-1?
grounds still as picky?

If not, i may start using that wideband on customer cars instead of the PLX SM-AFR that i have fallen in love with.
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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 07:23 AM
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I have not had any issues with the mtx-l
Check out the install guide for details on how the hardware wires up etc: http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/s...Manual_1.1.pdf
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hmm just like the AEM but hopefully a ton more accurate (as the AEM isnt the greatest)
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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mtber
ELD pin can be found on http://www.phearable.net/tech
that doesnt seem to give pin numbers for the p28 ecus
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i'm uses MTX-L on eCtune it's just perfect
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Old Mar 5, 2011 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bonesx0x2x4x
that doesnt seem to give pin numbers for the p28 ecus
eld pin for youre ecu is d10
http://www.phearable.net/tech/wiring...schematics.gif
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Old Mar 5, 2011 | 11:27 PM
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ive been using my LM-1 for over 6 years....still works flawless
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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 2k.civic.si
ive been using my LM-1 for over 6 years....still works flawless
I always wanted to confront MTX-L and LM-1 to see the difference on accuracy of mtx-l
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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by YZFR6AVID
Best one IMO is the NGK with the upgraded NTK sensor, AEM UEGO good for the buck...
X2 on the NGK I love mine...
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I like how everyone compares the acuracy of widebands to each other.. What reference are you guys using exactly to do this comparison???
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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 09:11 PM
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I like how everyone compares the acuracy of widebands to each other.. What reference are you guys using exactly to do this comparison???
there has been testing done of all the big name wideband systems out there....innovate is as close to lab grade as you can get without spending 1,000's of dallors. try google
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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 09:20 PM
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Hey i just had a question...Im building my 96 gsr and i have cp pistons 9.8:1 compression(for boost)...manley h beam rods...acl race bearings cometic head gasket...255 walbro fuel pump...880 injectors...and a t3 t4 t04e 50. a/r...Im about to send it in for the machine work and im only going to do a .5mm overbore without a sleeve...how much horsepower can i safley run on it with still getting good power
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Originally Posted by Bugermass
I like how everyone compares the acuracy of widebands to each other.. What reference are you guys using exactly to do this comparison???
using for comparaison périod of reponse, and value read
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Originally Posted by gsrb00st3dhatch
Hey i just had a question...Im building my 96 gsr and i have cp pistons 9.8:1 compression(for boost)...manley h beam rods...acl race bearings cometic head gasket...255 walbro fuel pump...880 injectors...and a t3 t4 t04e 50. a/r...Im about to send it in for the machine work and im only going to do a .5mm overbore without a sleeve...how much horsepower can i safley run on it with still getting good power
my opinion about 300-350hp, by cons should be a good well-tuned electronic management
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