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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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why does the type r have no sunroof when its the highest priced integra hands down???? lmk jus curious
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:16 PM
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:16 PM
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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Weight reduction, structural integrity...
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:23 PM
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Because it's a track car?
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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jus curious thanks
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:40 PM
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Because the people who own them don't own them to impress high school bimbos?
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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Because the people who own them don't own them to impress high school bimbos?
Whatchu mean Tom? That's the reason I bought my ITR is to drive to a high school parking lot and rev out the underaged bimbos.

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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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No weight added at the absolute highest point of the car.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:47 PM
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Weight reduction, structural integrity...
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Because it's a track car?
I'd say all bs aside, these are the most likely reasons. No reason to have additional weight up high on a track vehicle.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 09:05 PM
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Whatchu mean Tom? That's the reason I bought my ITR is to drive to a high school parking lot and rev out the underaged bimbos.

Yeah for real. All bimbos really dig VTEC!
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 10:57 PM
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No weight added at the absolute highest point of the car.
I present to you the addition of A/C and presence of PS, rear seats, spare tire, and oh yeah, A/C!

We all understand what Honda's goals were with most of the added/modified chassis components (trunk bar, trans-block stiffener, etc..) but in the end, it's possible that some of the removed parts may be just as much a cost cutting measure as a performance "feature." Yes, a big piece of glass that high is horrible in every single aspect of performance.. but what if they ditched the sunroof and cruise control in an attempt to better compete on price?

Onto a much more dire question now... is the 00-01 ITR in a very exclusive club of cars that came standard with air condinitioning but no option for cruise control?
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 12:19 AM
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to keep center of gravity low...better handling..
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 04:48 AM
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IIRC, the entire sunroof assembly (motor, rails, glass, etc.) on a DC2 Integra weighs 50+ pounds. That is indeed a lot of weight to place high in the car. I'm sure that it also saved cost as well.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 06:39 AM
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I don't know if it's 50 pounds, but I have a moonroof assembly here out of a '98 Civic coupe and it's not light. I can see about weighing the glass and pan later on if I dig it out of where I'm storing it.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Quick99Si
I present to you the addition of A/C and presence of PS, rear seats, spare tire, and oh yeah, A/C!

We all understand what Honda's goals were with most of the added/modified chassis components (trunk bar, trans-block stiffener, etc..) but in the end, it's possible that some of the removed parts may be just as much a cost cutting measure as a performance "feature." Yes, a big piece of glass that high is horrible in every single aspect of performance.. but what if they ditched the sunroof and cruise control in an attempt to better compete on price?

Onto a much more dire question now... is the 00-01 ITR in a very exclusive club of cars that came standard with air condinitioning but no option for cruise control?
Power steering is often a performance benefit. Not sure why'd you mention this.

JDM ITR had rear seats as well. And FWIW, they're decently lightweight. Spare tire--that's just silly. Everyone who tracks or autox's the car takes out the spare.

As for A/C, this was not standard in 97/98, but Acura found that a decent number of people were adding this as an option, so they included it for 00'/01 as dealer install prices were quite high and this put a lot of people off.

And I really don't think leaving the sunroof out was a cost cutting measure. They did the same on the CTR, Accord Type R, etc. Heck, even my Mazdaspeed3 has no sunroof, even though the 'lesser' versions do.

Not sure why you're doubting all of this, but if you look at just how many parts of the car that were changed (even very minor ones), you'd see that sunroof and no CC was not to save money.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 07:14 AM
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Also for headroom while wearing a helmet,since It's a track car.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:38 AM
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I removed my p/s, installed a manual rack for more ease of working in the bay but A/C is a must here in Alabama!!! I really don't care for sunroofs much anyway but do wish cruise would at least been an option from the dealer. I now have most of the parts to put cruise in my car now.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 04:20 PM
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Also for headroom while wearing a helmet,since It's a track car.

Yeah with a sunroof my helmet sits against the glass and i to drive with my head tilted. Annoying problem that the ITR doesn't have
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 04:26 PM
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It's a race car...hence the "Type R" (R = Race). I wish I had an ITR, or even a RS. My helmet hits sunroof too.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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like others have said, it's weight and structure. chevy even does this with the z06 for the same reasons. most the track oriented cars have done away with targa/sunroof options
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 02:00 AM
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yeah its to keep body rigidity up, also save weight.

although in australia it was a dealer option lol
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by daniel_traj
yeah its to keep body rigidity up, also save weight.

although in australia it was a dealer option lol
because the VTIR had it and the dealers think the top of the line model should also have it for the bogans to buy it.

if optioned it was installed by an aftermarket contractor before delivery to the customer. it's not really factory.


honestly why does the OP even need to ask? the R is the no compromise "performance" model and no compromise means just that. luxury items like sunroofs are in the bin with the sound deadening. JDM 96 specs didn't even have ABS standard because it was deemed unnecessary.
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