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Did the 1999 DX come with a stock sway bar?

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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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Default Did the 1999 DX come with a stock sway bar?

The inspectors failed me because they said I was missing the rear stabilizer bar. So I went to a Honda Dealership and asked them about it and they said it never came with one from the factory, so I checked online and found the same answer.

Now what am I supposed to tell them people at the inspections?
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 07:23 AM
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Bring them the proof from Honda that the car never had one, they can't fail you because something was not originally installed on a car in the first place.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 07:24 AM
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But then again, it says your in Germany? Hmm... Not sure how things work there, sorry bud.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 07:30 AM
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Wow, I have never heard of someone being failed for missing a sway bad.

You have 2 choices really. Explain the car didn't come factory with a sway bar front or rear, or install sway bars.

I did in my 98 Dx.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 07:39 AM
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Yeah, you could always install some nice BLOX, or what ever brand LCAs you like, and then install a sway bar. It is a nice upgrade to the suspension for sure!
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SpoonfedCivic
Yeah, you could always install some nice BLOX, or what ever brand LCAs you like, and then install a sway bar. It is a nice upgrade to the suspension for sure!
EK factory LCAs all have the holes for the factory swap bars. No need for aftermarket LCAs (Blox LCA suck btw)

And no DX models did not come with a rear sway bar. (or a front one for that matter) at least in north america.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 08:01 AM
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But then again, it says your in Germany? Hmm... Not sure how things work there, sorry bud.
It's funny cause I checked the junkyard and found 2 EK's both without sway bars, and I checked some that were in a parking lot and they didnt have them either.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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LOL @ Germany
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 08:36 AM
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EK factory LCAs all have the holes for the factory swap bars. No need for aftermarket LCAs (Blox LCA suck btw)

And no DX models did not come with a rear sway bar. (or a front one for that matter) at least in north america.
Wait, so you're telling me that ALL 96-00 Honda Civics despite what model number they are. Be it a CX/DX/LX/EX have factory mounting holes for a factory EX rear sway bar on the STOCK LCAs?
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 09:24 AM
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Yes, they all have the holes, in rear.

The front is a different story. Only the models that came with sway bars have the spots on the lower control arm.

You would either have to switch the lca, or switch just the back half.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 10:42 AM
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Default Re: Did the 1999 DX come with a stock sway bar?

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Yes, they all have the holes, in rear.

The front is a different story. Only the models that came with sway bars have the spots on the lower control arm.

You would either have to switch the lca, or switch just the back half.
Huh.... So you would use the 96-00 EX stock rear sway bar then? Or are there aftermarket units that will bolt up to our stock LCAs? I knew about the front LCAs already but I thought I would have to replace the rears as well. This is good news, and makes me very happy to hear.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SpoonfedCivic
Huh.... So you would use the 96-00 EX stock rear sway bar then?
Yes.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 06:01 PM
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Wait, I thought the only ones to come with a rear sway bar was the 99-00 SI?
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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Default Re: Did the 1999 DX come with a stock sway bar?

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Wait, I thought the only ones to come with a rear sway bar was the 99-00 SI?
Thought so too...........

I was actually like 99 % sure. I have an EX and there's no evidence that there ever was a sway bar, and I haven't heard of anyone else having one except for SIs
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 06:35 PM
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Default Re: Did the 1999 DX come with a stock sway bar?

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Wait, I thought the only ones to come with a rear sway bar was the 99-00 SI?
That's what I thought as well (although the EX sedans may have had them, previous gen did (actually it was the only north american 5th gen civic to get a rear sway bar)
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 07:05 PM
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That's what I thought as well (although the EX sedans may have had them, previous gen did (actually it was the only north american 5th gen civic to get a rear sway bar)
Hmmm, maybe it was one of those rare things?
I wonder how Honda had the rear sway bars mounted....
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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Default Re: Did the 1999 DX come with a stock sway bar?

Originally Posted by 98civdx
I wonder how Honda had the rear sway bars mounted....
D-brackets bolted to the rear subframe, then endlinks from the sway bar to the LCAs
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 08:14 PM
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D-brackets bolted to the rear subframe, then endlinks from the sway bar to the LCAs
I know that. lol

What I meant was, I wonder if they had the same sort of subframe the SI does.
With the thread holes already there.

Because the regular 96-00 have larger holes in the subframe.

I ended up having to use 10mm bolts and nuts, could not use OEM hardware.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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Default Re: Did the 1999 DX come with a stock sway bar?

So is there a reason at all to upgrade the rear LCAs in the 6th gen Civics?
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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So is there a reason at all to upgrade the rear LCAs in the 6th gen Civics?
For "bling"
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 05:27 AM
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For "bling"
Huh... Figures... Ok thanks that clears things up for me. Guess I know what I need to do now.
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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^ Yep, many many people that race autox and stuff swear by OEM and with the minimal weight savings you get from aftermarket it's almost irrelevant to use that arguement.

I would say aside from bling, being lazy is a huge factor. Everyone is too lazy to press new bushings.
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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Default Re: Did the 1999 DX come with a stock sway bar?

Originally Posted by Fnix
The inspectors failed me because they said I was missing the rear stabilizer bar. So I went to a Honda Dealership and asked them about it and they said it never came with one from the factory, so I checked online and found the same answer.

Now what am I supposed to tell them people at the inspections?
Go somewhere else.

If I were in that situation, I would be polite but FIRM and insist that they are wrong. If you have to, demand to see their information that states that YOUR SPECIFIC MODEL is supposed to have a rear sway bar.

Originally Posted by kaiba
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TwoFaced
^ Yep, many many people that race autox and stuff swear by OEM and with the minimal weight savings you get from aftermarket it's almost irrelevant to use that arguement.

I would say aside from bling, being lazy is a huge factor. Everyone is too lazy to press new bushings.
Even then, you buy brand new oem 96-00 lca's sometimes for a lot less then quality aftermarket lca's. (F7)
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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Default Re: Did the 1999 DX come with a stock sway bar?

So when it comes to pressing new bushings into the LCAs for the sway bar, where do you get the bushings? Do you get it from Honda? If so anybody have a part number?
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