Mods,

I dunno where to post this but feel free to move. tnx.

This thread is about Hondata's History from my point of view.

A lot of us know that Hondata is the **** when it comes to tuning
our Honda pocket rockets but not a lot of us know how they came to be.

Hondata was founded by two ingenious Honda enthusiast, Doug Mcmillan
and Derek Stevens a little over ten years ago. This started when Doug
who then was the owner of Orchard Computers posted an ad about disassembling
the OBD-0 ECU (EF9 Sir ECU PR3) The ad he posted resulted in a long standing
partnership with Derek who I think is the man behind the code (Hondata Software).

Back in New Zealand, Doug's interest was setting the land speed record
which he claimed using his Honda CRX EF9 with ingenious modifications to the
underbody to stabilize the car at speed. That CRX to this day is still running
(I may stand corrected on this one.) driven by Doug's wife Merriam Mcmillan
and is tearing up the Bonneville salt flat with several records on her belt.

Doug Mcmillan did all the testing with all the changes in the software and
Derek burned the midnight oil with the coding of the Hondata software.

Doug and Derek decided that the best way to market their revolutionary
product was to move to the United States. They moved stateside, if my memory
serves me right, in October of 2000 or 2001.

During those times, they had no rep here in the U.S. and they worked hard
to get to where they are today.

Hondata reached their success through their relentless efforts to improve their products and great customer support. I have bought hundreds of Hondata products
and never have had I seen one fail.

A lot of people followed suit by disassembling OBD-1 and OBD-0 ECUs and Hondata
has only moved forward since then by coming out with the KPRO and FlashPRO.

 

nice write up. I learned something

 

UV erase chips used to be the baddest thing since sliced cheese!

 

What about when they claimed to own the rights to Honda code and made a failed attempt to sue Dave Blunder? Is that part of the history?

 

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Oh come now, that never really happened

 

It's Dave Blundell. If you can't spell his name right, how the hell should I think that what you know is true.

FYI, it is not the Honda code that they are claiming but the HONDATA code that was posted in PGMFI.org. Blundar got burned but it was not his fault. It was only because he is the recognized owner of the site.

 

HOMODATA

 

Now that's representing www.bbmoto.net and Neptune with class!

 

I have no problem with it. I do things my way or customers go elsewhere. Tuning is something i enjoy to do, not how i make a living and i can express my opinions how i want.

Thanks

 

who cares....hondata, ectune, neptune, uberdata, crome....they all just modify stock honda code tables....some just look prettier then others to make people go "oh so pretty"

 

I see. Making derogatory posts towards your competitors is how you attract more side work. Must be an effective marketing plan.


Oh, Your very welcome.

 

isn't that what politicans do?

 

Sort of, politicians do it in a Non-Slanderous way. They dig up legitimate dirt on their competition and use it to make themselves look better. IMO it really isn't much better than coming out and calling them a F#@king H@m@ just to try and swing a vote.

 

Cosxider yer demografik

 

great customer service right there lol....i also do this as a hobby not for a living but i do whatever it takes to make my customers happy. for some customers i would get paid for 2-3-4 hours of time but end up putting in twice that just to make sure the car is the way i would want my own tuned.

 

Customer Service FTW. Most customers have no clue with their set-ups. It's up to us to figure out what's wrong with their systems.

I tuned for a lot of engine builders and most of them had no clue with the HONDA wiring way back then. Took some time to teach them but it ended up great cause it only takes less troubleshooting time and more tuning time.

and in my experience, HONDATA's customer service is way up there.

 

You are correct up to a certain point. like all of the products you mentioned are derived from a honda code.

Having tuned with all of these products, i can say that they also have their differences and limitations. But for for any street car, most of those software mentioned are up to the task.

 

I would say about half the cars that showed up after getting strapped down to the dyno had to be fixed in one way or another. Usually I could fix it in a few minutes but if it was something major we had to charge them normal shop rates for repair.
What I refer to is tuning the car on the dyno then going out on the street/highway to do some normal driving for awhile to tweak the tune for the drivers habbits. Usually we just charged for dyno time...the street tuning/tweaking was a freebie

 

You are lucky then. I used to solve a lot of wiring gremlins since a lot of swaps had really bad wiring back in the day. Almost always the troubleshooting and fixing is free since I couldn't tune the car if it ain't running right.

 

The software may be nice, but the owners are scumbags. What happened on pgmfi.org a few years ago was completely out of Dave Blundell's control, yet they screwed him for all he had. I refuse to support the company.

One of the most critical "bugs" that Crome has, Hondata has as well. eCtune and Neptune have it figured out, or at least somewhat under control.

 

Exactly..

 

What crome has bugs? My homeboy makes mad powers with crome! Neptune FTW

 

i had good results with it, too. people with the setup i had had 5-15whp less than i had....but that could just be a dyno thing

 

crome is a fine program for mild things.. if you get into heavy whp or serious NA tunes.. go with something alittle bit more indepth.

we tune hondata, we dont particular support it though after what happened..

 

hopefully hondata crumbles to dust. or hopefully honda drags them through a long legal battle for no reason at all..............