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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Default s300 aem uego fail/ s300 fail

welll went to tune today and came along multiple problems..

1: cannot get s300 to calibrate with wideband, using d14 with white wire from aem uego, even though in the "sensors" it shows that hondata is getting the volts that relate to what wideband says, so volts are there, but it just wont calibrate. it goes from like .80-1.00 afr which is not right at all lol

2:while datalogging, it will not let me switch to high speed tables.
when i click high speed fuel/ignition, it throws me right back to low speed

3: changed my injector size to 440 and when i get in boost like 6 psi and check afr its about 13:1 which needs richend out, but the duty cycle is starting to go past 100, maybe cause it thinks its the 240cc injectors? how do you fix this

4:ignition has me stumped...what should i be aiming toward stock d16z6 on 10 psi

help please thanks very much
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 07:58 PM
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Seriously..Fail? You lay blame on AEM and Hondata........ Just wondering, What is your level of tuning experience?

1. The UGEO WHT wire is only a Lambda output of 0 - 1v. The ORG (or BLU) wire is the 0-5v output.
2. As far as I know your engine has to actually be in the high cam/ignition values to tune them??????
3. Where are you getting the 13:1 readings from and are you sure you have that source wired properly?
4. Tuning your ignition is something that you should leave until you are on a dyno. That way you can actually see if there are any improvements with the adjustments.

Sorry I have a pet peeve when people blame software/hardware when it's quite obvious that it is a chair to user interface issue......
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:11 PM
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so you have to be ripping down the road and tune high speed tables while past 5000rpm,,,,yaaaa
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:14 PM
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Incorrect. The white wire runs to an input on the ecu for datalogging as it is a 0-5 volt output.

The blue wire is not needed.

Concerning what input to use on the ecu, read the Smanager help file.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:26 PM
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Seems like you don't have any experience on tuning. Take it to someone who knows what they are doing.


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Do mad research and read read read
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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Default Re: s300 aem uego fail/ s300 fail

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so you have to be ripping down the road and tune high speed tables while past 5000rpm,,,,yaaaa
Originally Posted by bnmm
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Incorrect. The white wire runs to an input on the ecu for datalogging as it is a 0-5 volt output.

The blue wire is not needed.

Concerning what input to use on the ecu, read the Smanager help file.

Sorry what version of the AEM UGEO do you have? If it has a blue wire then it is the old UGEO and the WHT wire AFAIK is 0-1v. If you have the newer vers that has WHT, GRY & BRN wires then the WHT one is correct.



Good luck!

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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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tuning and false information are different thanks ********
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bnmm
welll went to tune today and came along multiple problems..

1: cannot get s300 to calibrate with wideband, using d14 with white wire from aem uego, even though in the "sensors" it shows that hondata is getting the volts that relate to what wideband says, so volts are there, but it just wont calibrate. it goes from like .80-1.00 afr which is not right at all lol
This sounds like you have it set to display lambda, not a/f ratio...

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2:while datalogging, it will not let me switch to high speed tables.
when i click high speed fuel/ignition, it throws me right back to low speed
Unclick datalogging to select the high speed cam/ignition tables and make the changes. After you make the changes, you can reselect datalloging on and check your adjustments. Smanager is simply datalogging where your engine is ACTUALLY OPERATING.

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3: changed my injector size to 440 and when i get in boost like 6 psi and check afr its about 13:1 which needs richend out, but the duty cycle is starting to go past 100, maybe cause it thinks its the 240cc injectors? how do you fix this
You are probably running out of fuel. 440cc injectors aren't very big. Also, if you don't have an upgraded fuel pump, you are definetely going to run out of fuel. The stock pump simply cannot flow enough volume to keep up with the engine's demand for fuel.

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4:ignition has me stumped...what should i be aiming toward stock d16z6 on 10 psi

help please thanks very much
You simply shouldn't be tuning this without a dyno, you need a dyno to make educated timing adjustments. For starters though, set ignition retard for around 1.25 degrees per pound of boost (this should keep your timing somewhat conservative/safe)
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 06:26 AM
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so you have to be ripping down the road and tune high speed tables while past 5000rpm,,,,yaaaa
If you actually want to datalog and tune, then yaaaaaaaaa you do have to be ripping down the road. Be much more legal on a dyno though. Then once you have your data logged for the high cam/high speeds cels, you turn off datalogging and make your changes......
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 06:37 AM
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i gotta walbro 255 440s should def be enough for a stock single cam on 9 pounds
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 06:37 AM
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Default Re: s300 aem uego fail/ s300 fail

and in the display it says af but it could be wrong, that makes sense
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 06:39 AM
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Default Re: s300 aem uego fail/ s300 fail

and i guess its the old one, i ordered it from summit. it has red black blue and white wires
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