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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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Hi guys. I have a skunk2 shortshifter installed with PW JDM Shifter bushings. Before when I first had this stuff installed, everything shifted solid, crisp, and smooth. This was installed about maybe...7 months ago? 5 months ago? Just today, I hit a speed bump a bit too fast and it felt fine at first still. But later on during the day, the shifting felt like it was a bit sloppy. It was no longer solid and crisp and smooth like before, but everything pops into gear and feels like it's shifting correctly. But the feeling has completely changed. It just feels plain sloppy. And by sloppy, I mean like, no crisp feeling like before.

Could it be that by going through the speed bump, it maybe knocked a bushing loose? It didn't even bottom out or anything at all.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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Why not check and see?
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 08:34 PM
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Too late at this time of the night. Probably gonna check in the morning.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 09:23 PM
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I have a Skunk 2 dual bend with the **** and boot with Energy Suspension bushings in a dc2 gsr...my pin was almost knocked lose from bumps, system, etc...check how secure it is underneath
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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pin? What pin are you talking about?

I'm trying to look at this article on T-I for reference but I don't really know where the pin is.
http://www.team-integra.net/sections...?ArticleID=635
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 02:26 AM
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Check to make sure the bolts under the center console are tight. Make sure the two bolts on the bottom of the car around the car area are tight along with the one to the tranny. The pin should also be very hard to get out. If it comes out easy, replace it. This pin is the second attachment to the tranny. It is under a metal C-clip, which is under a dust boot. It is the other arm than the one with a 12mm bolt on it.
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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Ok guys, I think i've found my problem. So I jacked up the car today and when I looked underneath, I checked the bushings and looked for the pin that ya'll described for me. Everything seems to be hooked up securely. When I examined the bushings underneath the shifter, those seemed to be fine. When I got to the bushing that connects to the transmission, it seemed a bit loose and when I examined it with my hand, behold, it was torn on one side. Therefore, I feel as if that's what's causing the sloppy feeling. Here's some pictures that and a vid that I took that ya'll can take a look at. If anyone feels there's any preliminary causes or any other causes that you can tell from these pics or vids that may be causing the sloppy feeling, let me know.


Underneath the shifter.




pictures of the shifter bushing that goes under the shifter





some pictures of the shift linkage



the bushing where the culprit lies.



another shift linkage shot connecting to the transmission

and here's a vid of the bushing illustrated being torn or whatnot and how it looks if you may be feeling sloppiness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYG398c12Xw

let me know what you guys think! Sorry for the big pics btw.
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 05:08 PM
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hoooly crap man, that's seriously after only 5-6 months old???

further proof that polyurethane bushings are nothing but crap. Mine turned to dust after only a few years. OEM rubber bushings wouldn't do that. I say throw brand new OEM rubber shifter bushings in there. That's what I did after I found my dry rotter polyurethane bushings. Shift feeling was night and day better with new OEM rubber bushings.

*edit* noticed that PW JDM bushings are rubber, not poly. See below.

Last edited by PatrickGSR94; Jan 12, 2011 at 05:34 PM.
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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Energy Suspension bushings FTW...$12 maybe $20 tops shipped...work great for me
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 05:37 PM
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n/m just noticed that PW JDM bushings are supposedly "hardened" rubber. However their design is IMHO flawed over the stock design. And $40?? Wow what a ripoff!

The OEM rubber shift stabilizer "donut" bushing is only one piece as opposed to the 2 piece PWJDM version. It's a bit more difficult to get installed into the linkage, but it's much less likely to develop the huge freeplay that the OP showed in the video above.

OP I would still recommend OEM rubber shifter bushings. Under $15 plus shipping for both bushings, and IMHO better than both polyurethane or those PWJDM "hardened" rubber bushings.
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 05:51 PM
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Ooo. I see. It's weird though. Right after I had these installed, I only had the opportunity to drive this around for a week an then my car was stolen. And then when it was recovered, It was just sitting around still for the following months to come. I don't understand why it would wear out that fast when it was barely used to begin with >.<
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 05:57 PM
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wait a sec, I think you're missing the metal washer that goes between the bushing and the transmission case.

#16 and #17 are both metal washers, looks like you're missing #17

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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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ahh. I see. That would explain a lot as to why the bushing would wear out so fast prematurely!
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 12:00 AM
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dude if you you simply keep white lithium grease on the energy bushings like your suppose to....you wont have problems with them trust me i have the master energy kit on my suspension and every month i make sure to spray allot of it on there because if you dont like the guy said above they will basically turn to dust
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 07:30 AM
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Every month? Dang, too much work for basically no gain IMHO. OEM rubber is where it's at for shifter bushings, and hard rubber bushings for suspension.
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