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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 06:42 AM
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i have a stock b16a2 i wanted to know if anyone here knowes any little things or tricks to get more power out of the engine without dumping alot in a rebuild just want to knowwhat people have done and did it work?
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 06:48 AM
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gsr intake cam - $20
jasma b16a header - $100
itr exhaust - $100-$150
itr intake mani - $80
itr t.b chipped - $60
p28 tunned -$$$ dont slack

u should be good with out a dent in ur wallet
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 06:52 AM
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-a gsr intake cam will make 0 difference in a NA application
-JASMA is not a brand, it's Japan's equivlent to CARB
-by the time he pays $$ for anything with an R name, he might as well do aftermarket


OP - what is your budget and do you have any mechanical skills?
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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^^^ with this set up i made 12 hp difference in my b16a with the amount u see there i dont see y it wouldnt be good on another b16....

just with jasma b16a headers, short ram intake, itr exhaust, stock b16a ecu i made 161hp 115tq, the dyno i used is a dyno jet at td autowerks
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 07:50 AM
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i already have a greddy full exaust
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 07:51 AM
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and i also got a p28 thats the only way i could pop vtec in my eg coupe
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 07:53 AM
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i am pretty good with mechanical and if i cant do it my cuz can he is the car guy lol my budget i havent figured it out yet but what u got in mind
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 08:07 AM
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and i also got a p28 thats the only way i could pop vtec in my eg coupe
If your running a stock p28 then getting it chipped and tuned should be your first priority. Stock p28 fuel and timing curves are completely wrong for a b16a. I suspect your running very lean.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 08:11 AM
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^^^ with this set up i made 12 hp difference in my b16a with the amount u see there i dont see y it wouldnt be good on another b16....

just with jasma b16a headers, short ram intake, itr exhaust, stock b16a ecu i made 161hp 115tq, the dyno i used is a dyno jet at td autowerks
12 whp???? You got ripped off.. And once again.. Jasma is not a brand of header..

Rice, I am beginning to think that people dont want to search and do work themselves...
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 08:21 AM
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-a gsr intake cam will make 0 difference in a NA application
-JASMA is not a brand, it's Japan's equivlent to CARB
-by the time he pays $$ for anything with an R name, he might as well do aftermarket


OP - what is your budget and do you have any mechanical skills?
that statement of the gsr cam, theres a guy on b20vtec that dynoed his b16 with stock cams then switched to the gsr intake and gained almost 7hp from wat i recall ill try to find it and post the dyno charts
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 08:22 AM
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its weird because i think i am running to rich and i know that guy got screwed 600 for only 12 whp lol i want to get it tunned and chipped but have no clue how much it will run me
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 08:23 AM
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k i would like to see them and also anyone know what cams are a good upgrade
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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get a Aem cold air intake or short ram, Velocity stack, Aem P/s Alternator pulleys. Get a 4-1 header, and pick up a cheap 2.5 exhaust and test pipe. I bet you could get all that for $1000.00
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 08:53 AM
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just buy a nitrous kit. you cant beat the powerr vs. money you will be getting. p find a used working zex kit and put the 75shot jets in get some colder plugs and you good to go. i have put a 75shot on so many b16's and they last forever.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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that 600 you wasted for 12hp and probably 1tq coulda bought my header that gave me close to that much in one mod.

buy real parts, do research, figure out what YOU want. not what we want you to put into it. but if you want it like that i'll drive it for you too.

get an ebay 3" sri with a vstack and different filter, throw the ebay one anywhere.
you said you already have a greddy exhaust
get a different header, depending on where your located might limit options. but spend upwards of 500 for it.
i suppose s300 for the p28. personally i'd have done it in the p30 your supposed to be using.

Nitrous would be a good option, although it will put extra stress on the engine.


as for cams, any entry level cam will be good for a lil bit of extra power after a tune. bc3, or skunk2 tuner/pro seem to be the most common.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 09:11 AM
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Nitrous express kits on summit are going for 400 right now, its the proton plus kit very similar to the zex setup using the box for your fuel and nitrous, only its about 150 bucks cheaper, plus it comes with a free bottle blanket (140$ free) comes with all the jets you need, but most tuners prefer a dry kit over a wet due to them having 100% control of the fuel and it being evenly distributed into the cylinders.

dry kits are cheaper, just get a dry kit, dsm450's, bottle heater, and a tune and your golden!
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 09:38 AM
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thanks all good ideas except for the nos i dont plan on blowing my motor for only a few seconds of power i plan on getting some nice headers chip and tune the ecu and cams sound like a good upgrade but they would have to be entry level unless i plan to build my si head which is also an idea i think i could get some real power out of bulding my head but i dont really want to take apart my head
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 10:09 AM
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The wet kits are plug-n-play, so "blowing it up" won't really happen, due to the extra fuel.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 10:32 AM
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well i dont know much about them so i am going to stay away from that
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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Really the only way to get "more power" as it applies to most people you need to open your pocket book and expand your horizons in terms of what parts you will run. A built head, good header, intake, free flowing exhaust w/ testpipe and a good tune will get you what you are looking for. Low displacement of the B16A limit your power potentials without going all out and spending big buck.
Honestly if your running the P30 IM and TB switching to an ITR IM will lose usable power on the B16. The P30 is the best all around intake for a B16 as the ITR piece only make more power above 8300 rpm, typically. Save your money.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 12:37 PM
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Well, I'll throw my 2 cents in since everyone else has.

I wouldn't add a damn thing to the motor. Not a header, not an IM, cams or anything. You'll squash all of those if you add a 4.9 Final Drive to your tranny. It's gonna give you more acceleration than if you were to do r cams and a header. Hands down.

Get the car running properly should be your 1st. priority, then add your FD. It will be your fav. mod.

If you insist on wanting a bigger dyno number though, r cams and the oem 4-1 r header. Those really wake B16's up. But still, the FD is a better/cheaper way to go.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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Well, I'll throw my 2 cents in since everyone else has.

I wouldn't add a damn thing to the motor. Not a header, not an IM, cams or anything. You'll squash all of those if you add a 4.9 Final Drive to your tranny. It's gonna give you more acceleration than if you were to do r cams and a header. Hands down.

Get the car running properly should be your 1st. priority, then add your FD. It will be your fav. mod.

If you insist on wanting a bigger dyno number though, r cams and the oem 4-1 r header. Those really wake B16's up. But still, the FD is a better/cheaper way to go.
i like it, plain and simple but tasteful mods, i forgot the tranny and so do many other poeple, upgrading gears can be the biggest improvement that everyone tends to look past for some ungodly reason
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by clean rice
Well, I'll throw my 2 cents in since everyone else has.

I wouldn't add a damn thing to the motor. Not a header, not an IM, cams or anything. You'll squash all of those if you add a 4.9 Final Drive to your tranny. It's gonna give you more acceleration than if you were to do r cams and a header. Hands down.

Get the car running properly should be your 1st. priority, then add your FD. It will be your fav. mod.

If you insist on wanting a bigger dyno number though, r cams and the oem 4-1 r header. Those really wake B16's up. But still, the FD is a better/cheaper way to go.

says a mfactory dealer... what will his rpms be at in 5th at 65mph???

if you dont even know how to hook up a zex kit then do youself a favor and leave you engine alone
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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just buy a ebay turbo kit for 500 get the oil restrictor for the turbo get some injectors and a fuel pump and get that p28 tuned for turbo. 300whp all day on a decent tune and the power will be their all the time not just when you push the button.... just my opinion....
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 96ekdowork
the biggest improvement that everyone tends to look past for some ungodly reason
Because people are more concerned with a dyno # than track times. They'd rather see "200" hp than a quick time slip/track time. Lame.

Originally Posted by NA James
says a mfactory dealer... what will his rpms be at in 5th at 65mph???
I don't give a **** if he buys from me or not, I don't do this to make a living lol! I'm just being honest. I have gearing myself, and it made a much bigger diff. then my cams and header did.

For your mph question...go to MF's website, they have a calculator.
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