Right now I'm rolling on TL type-s wheels with 235/45/17 Falken Ziex 912's and I am not satisfied with them one bit on my 01' CR-V. Before I had 215/60/15 bs all seasons and it did not crown to the road and follow lines/cracks like these falkens do.


My question is why do these tires make my vehicle follow road cracks and lines badly? I'm sure they don't have this problem on TL's or they'd receive complaints about it. Is it the width of the tire and the weight of my vehicle not keeping them planted to the ground? Whatever it is I will never throw another falken 912 on my car again. They are quite noisy as well.


My next set I'm looking for something a bit wider and slightly taller. So 245/45/17 would be the ideal size for me.. I think..


What do you guys recommend? I'd like a tire that I can get atleast 30,000 miles out of. If more, than great! my CR-V is lowered and I plan on letting my girlfriend autox it the next season so a somewhat tire I can go out and have fun would work. The 912's aren't bad at autox for what the cr-v was capable of so anything comparable to the Falken 912 would be perfect..


Any suggestions?

 

245/45/17 Yokohoma S. Drives at $122 a piece on Discount Tire. ( I have these in a 205/50/15 on my 99 civic coupe and they're wonderful daily tires.)

How are the Yokohama AVID ENVigor's? it's a 45,000 mile tire at $119 a tire.
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...w=false&cs=245


Hankook Ventus V4 ES H105 a 50,000 mile tire at $114 a tire
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...w=false&cs=245

 

245/45-17 still isn't quite the right size for the car.

205/70-15 was stock, which is a 26.3" diameter tire.
245/45-17 is only 25.7"
225/50-17 or 225/55-17 are the recommended sizes to use (0.4" under and over), depending on wheel width.

If traction is the goal, narrower tires in a better compound will provide much more grip than wider tires in an inferior compound.

If you want a streetable auto-x tire, you're looking at only getting 10k to 18k miles out of them, and they're all listed as "Extreme Performance Summer" tires on tirerack.com.

Of those 2 tires you listed, I sure wouldn't try and use a 420 or 560 treadwear tire on an auto-x course. Even if you're ok with the terrible traction, such use could easily damage the tires since they are not intended to take that much heat.

Just my $0.02

 

That's good advice, TunerN00b. Regarding the tire size as well as the kinds of tires.

The more different things you ask a tire to do, the less capable it will be at any one of those things. So an all-season tire like the ones you mention will be okay in snow (the usual reason for using all-seasons) as well as warm weather, but won't do well for autocross, for the reasons TunerN00b stated.

You aren't going to find any of the "extreme performance" summer tires that TunerN00b mentioned in your sizes of 225/50-17 or 225/55-17. However, there are some very good "max performance" summer tires available in these sizes. The best of these, and affordably priced compared with some of the others, is the Continental ExtremeContact DW, which is available in 225/50-17. They should give you the 30K miles you're looking for, and they will give you very good traction for autocross. The only thing they really won't do well is grip in snow or frigid cold, but that may not be a concern for you, if you have another vehicle for the rare snowstorms in your area. They will give you MUCH better traction in moderate to warm temperatures, in rain as well as on dry pavement, than the crappy Falken Ziex ZE-912 tires you're using now.

 

On the "not quite good advice" side of things, there's always buying a set of 17x12 wheels and runing a set of 335/35-17 Kumho Ecsta XS tires on it. That would actually keep the correct diameter, look and perform absolutely awesome, and the extra track width from fitting those monsters would only help stabilize such a high center of gravity vehicle. Oh, and wider tires in the same compound as a narrower one will last longer (more total rubber to wear down).

 

If you want to get a set of tires that are specifically for autocross, then it's possible you might consider ignoring factors like keeping the diameter the same as stock (because you don't care about the accuracy of gauges when you're autocrossing), etc.

However, if you're first starting autocross, you probably would be better off just using your daily driving tires to begin with. Once you (or your GF) build up some experience, you could consider getting autocross-specific tires at that point. Although once you do build up experience, things may turn out differently than you planned (for example, you may want to consider getting a different vehicle for autocross than the CR-V). I'm not criticizing you for trying it out, I'm just saying that you may want to get more experience with what you're doing before you start spending a lot of money.

 

The cr-v is actually my car of choice for the winter time. I'm in Oklahoma and we expect snow/ice every year. It's my daily that's gonna see occasional autox. Nothing hardcore. My civic on the other hand is my dedicated weekend warrior/ autox machine that i've learned quite a bit from.

So let me rephrase my questions. What's a good 30k-50k mile tire that would be good in rain, decent in snow and not terrible in the warm weathers? The reason why I want a 245 instead of a 235 is so the tire can poke over the rims a hair so I can somewhat protect them. And also to get rid of some of my fender gap.


Any reason why the 912's make my cr-v pull on cracks and bumps but don't in the TL's?

 

I still wouldn't get the overwide sizes you're talking about. Unless your wheels are especially wide (e.g. 17x8 rather than the better fitting 17x7) - in which case, that's the cause of the problem - I would stick with the 225 treadwidth. And they should still bulge at least a little past the rim lips.

I would get one of these all-season tires that are reasonably priced:

BFGoodrich g-Force Super Sport A/S 225/50ZR17
Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position 225/50-17
Continental ExtremeContact DWS 225/50ZR17
Goodyear Eagle GT 225/50ZR17 or 225/55ZR17
Hankook Ventus V4 ES H105 225/50ZR17 or 225/55ZR17
Kumho Ecsta ASX 225/50R17 or 225/55ZR17

Not that I can think of.

 

I can vouch for both the Continental DWS and Bridgestone RE960 AS.
The Bridgestones are great all-round tires, but the Continental DWS are more sure-footed in snow/icy weather. I have collected about 20k miles on the Bridgestones (8th gen Civic), and 5k on the Contis (awd E90 sedan). Given realistic expectations, neither will disappoint.

 

the wheels come factory with 235/45/17 tires, the 235 seem to sit flush on there. Are you sure they aren't 17x7.5? The reason why I wanted to go with a 245 was to somewhat protect the wheel for when I let my girlfriend drive it.

Anywho, I'm set on Continental DWS' a few guys around here run them and say they are amazing. Now I just have to decide on a size

 

Just because that's the proper size for a TL Type S, doesn't make them the proper size for your car. The best size depends on the car, not just on the wheel.

What year TL Type S did they come from? For example, the 2002 TL-S came with 17x6.5 wheels, the 2008 came with 17x8 wheels.

If she's that bad a driver, don't let her drive the car.

 

Mine are the 08+ wheels, http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...1t:429,r:0,s:0

those bad boys, sorry for the long link. Anywho so now i'm looking at stretching a 225 onto my 17x8 wheel? What problems would I run into running a wider tire than necessary?

 

They could rub (especially if they are also a larger diameter), they won't grip as well in snow, they won't grip as well in rain.

 

I've checked the width/height of everything, and the 245's would be the widest I could run without rubbing, the 45 profile should still be a bit shorter than my 215/60 I ran.


Another reason why i wanted a wide tire was to perform better in the snow/rain. For the rain I could see why a wider tire wouldn't help. but why the snow? That's nuts. I guess I'm forced to stick with a 225/235

 

So should I stick with a 225 and stretch it on my 8" wide wheel? Or stick with a 235 that fits on the wheel flush? Considering you said the wider the tire, the more likely my car will pull on cracks and crown on the road.