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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 02:51 AM
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You guessed it...i am looking into getting some coilovers for 97 4DR accord...I am not a racer just looking for something to improve the ride and lower it some that has adjustablity. But the thing is they run from $600ish to way over $1500 for a set.

800 is the MAX i want to pay...

I am looking Megan EZ Street/Form Function1/K Sport Pro Control Damper due to the price...any pros or cons to each...thanks
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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get your *** into the suspension section and read before spending such a high amount of cash.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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I just bought the coilover sleeve kit from skunk2 racing with the struts. I got it for Low 600 shipped on ebay. I can give you the seller if your interested, he is a really good guy, and super fast shipping.

I am aware they are not "real" coilovers but they sure get the job done for adjust-ability and lowering. The ride is not bad either.

Here is a picture of how my car sits on 15" rims with a 195 50 tire

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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 05:51 PM
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Function & Form type 1's have my vote
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 07:03 PM
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^^ and Type 2!
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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Function and form type 1 and 2.
K sport.
Ground Control.
Skunk2.
Your options depends on what you will use for the car.

Do you only want it to drop 1.5-2.5"?

Do you want to be slammed, low/negative offsets, fender rolls+pull?

I vote K sports or Form & funtion type I & II for the best results for their price.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfy47
Function & Form type 1's have my vote
Originally Posted by nus_dogg
^^ and Type 2!
You'll find that Function & Forms are raved about for Accords, and for good reason.

Tein Basic's also fall into your price range, though you'll find a lot of people not liking the ride on the Accord spring rates (saying they're too soft).

You could look at the tried and true Ground Control coilover sleeves w/ choice of strut/shock combo. Though that can get over your budget by a bit.

You could go with the Skunk2 setup Toyota00 suggested as well. Though they don't ride as nice as GC's but they can work with the budget a bit better.

EDIT: As 20-EM2-05 said K sport is also another good brand. I always forget they make suspension for Accords for some reason.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcool1977
get your *** into the suspension section and read before spending such a high amount of cash.
Thank you for stating the obvious..but i wanted some feedback that was related to the accord not just suspension parts and pieces..

All other replies thanks for the feedback..
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 20-EM2-05
Function and form type 1 and 2.
K sport.
Ground Control.
Skunk2.
Your options depends on what you will use for the car.

Do you only want it to drop 1.5-2.5"?

Do you want to be slammed, low/negative offsets, fender rolls+pull?

I vote K sports or Form & funtion type I & II for the best results for their price.
I want to lower the car some...the car is not a racer.

just has a few bolt on H22....just wanting to give it an agressive stance while updgrading the suspension...
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 12:18 AM
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I have a '97 Accord Wagon and have been researching this topic for awhile. My goals are similar to yours, I think: conservatively lowered by only ~1" plus improved handling for daily driving, but without a race car-like-ride.

So far the Ground Control coil-overs seem like the best bet, for $339. They use Eibach race springs, but customize the specific spring rate depending upon what you tell them you want. I plan on using Koni Street ("orange") shocks because I don't care about valving adjustment and because I want to keep the total investment withing reason (the Koni orange shocks are much cheaper than yellows). A set of Koni Street shocks will run about $315, making the total outlay well within your $800 budget.

BTW: So far the only suspension mod I've done is anti-sway bars: a Progress in the rear and a pretty hefty one (27mm) I bought used off CL for the front, plus poly bushings and end links. Even with the crappy Monroe shocks which the PO had installed, the handling is MUCH improved with the bars alone. You might want to think about doing that first.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 12:32 AM
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97 Accord wagon not many of those around...

Sounds like me and you are on the same page...Yeah adjustments would be nice..but after they are set i dont think i will be moving. The car is just my weekend car like i said no racer.

Let me look into those bars and see if i can pick some up. If can save money i am all for it.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 10:42 AM
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I say just get any decent adjustable coilovers for what you are looking for. Just have it lowered to your likings. 1.5" to 3" or even 5" if your that crazy, just remember to say away from no name brands.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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yeah i am leaning towards Function Form 1 or Megan EZ Street..i dont want to spend 800 if i can get some for less..i dont need all out coilovers...both have adjustable height rebound and with that mess with the preload when they are loward...around 600buck shipped isnt too bad either...
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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koni yellows and Ground controls seems to be very popular, the good thing about koni is their lifetime warranty, not sure other manufactures offer that privilege.

And the price is within your budget.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 12:32 PM
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conservatively lowered by only ~1" plus improved handling for daily driving, but without a race car-like-ride.

So far the Ground Control coil-overs seem like the best bet, for $339. They use Eibach race springs, but customize the specific spring rate depending upon what you tell them you want. I plan on using Koni Street ("orange") shocks because I don't care about valving adjustment and because I want to keep the total investment withing reason (the Koni orange shocks are much cheaper than yellows). A set of Koni Street shocks will run about $315, making the total outlay well within your $800 budget.
Keep in mind those Koni Streets are basically an OE replacement (like Tokico Blues) so you really aren't getting that much performance for the price. Not to mention you are just about as likely to blow them out as OE struts/shocks.

You may want to think about spending your money on the struts/shocks and just go with Tein H or S Techs or another decent lowering spring considering you don't even want to drop it very much.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 03:12 PM
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You can never go wrong with KW's.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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You can never go wrong with KW's.
Considering the only K&W's that work with the OP's car are well over a grand (as well as nearly all of their coilovers for other cars) I don't think that's going to work.

Good company though.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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I've got Ground Controls and Tokico Illuminas on mine.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 11:05 PM
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Keep in mind those Koni Streets are basically an OE replacement (like Tokico Blues) so you really aren't getting that much performance for the price. Not to mention you are just about as likely to blow them out as OE struts/shocks.

Hmmm. From what I've read so far on HT it seems the non-adjustable Koni (orange) Streets have their valving set to approximate the "soft" setting on the adjustable (yellow) Sports, which some people actually prefer for a street car. If what you say is correct then maybe the yellows are worth the (considerably more) $$$, however I doubt Koni would produce a shock that didn't offer a fairly significant performance advantage over stock. Why do you think they'd "blow out"? I'd be interested to know more; I haven't used Konis for many years but they've always had a reputation for great quality products. The guys at Ground Control said the Streets would be a great choice for my application.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 01:53 AM
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I truely believe that Function Form Type 2s are the best coilovers that you can buy for a CB/CD Accord.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 01:58 AM
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. Why do you think they'd "blow out"? I'd be interested to know more; I haven't used Konis for many years but they've always had a reputation for great quality products. The guys at Ground Control said the Streets would be a great choice for my application.
You should research more into suspension.

When a soft damper (koni orange, tokico blue, kyb gr-2, monroe, etc..) is paired with a spring with a high spring rate (lowering springs over a 2" drop), the result is a setup that tends to bottom out. This also happens vice versa.. low spring rates with stiff dampers (like Tein SS coilovers).

This simply means that too much bottoming out = blown dampers. easy as that.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Balwin
I truely believe that Function Form Type 2s are the best coilovers that you can buy for a CB/CD Accord.
I am leaning more towards the Type 1...600shipped...for what i need and from others have posted they seem to get the job done...
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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are you considering a full coilover? GC isn't exactly that... and the skunk sleeve kit isn't either.

with that budget in mind you can go complete... i have k-sports...
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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Hmmm. From what I've read so far on HT it seems the non-adjustable Koni (orange) Streets have their valving set to approximate the "soft" setting on the adjustable (yellow) Sports, which some people actually prefer for a street car. If what you say is correct then maybe the yellows are worth the (considerably more) $$$, however I doubt Koni would produce a shock that didn't offer a fairly significant performance advantage over stock. Why do you think they'd "blow out"? I'd be interested to know more; I haven't used Konis for many years but they've always had a reputation for great quality products. The guys at Ground Control said the Streets would be a great choice for my application.
You need to really check out the suspension forums like was suggested before. Whatever you've read, you haven't read enough.

Yes, the Streets and the comparable Tokico Blues are meant for a slightly more performance oriented, comfortable ride. However, that also means they aren't going to be the best at a lower ride setting. Balwin elaborated on that a bit.

Don't get confused either, those struts/shocks ARE quality, but they just aren't meant for a lowered car. The valving you quote as desirable just won't hold up as well as a stiffer strut/shock. It's almost like running lowering springs on stock struts/shocks. Sorry, but you can't have a nice, softer ride AND a significant drop. It doesn't work like that and quality or not you will screw up your stuff faster than normal.

Now, you will probably be fine at around an inch lower with these struts/shocks but why not just buy better ones now instead of possibly having to buy new ones later?

And to be fair, have you talked to anyone at Koni about what struts/shocks to use? Not saying who you talked to at GC didn't know what they were talking about. However, as long as you are buying their product, why should it matter to them what you are using? You could consider Tokico Illuminas as well. I love mine.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tony tone
are you considering a full coilover? GC isn't exactly that... and the skunk sleeve kit isn't either.

with that budget in mind you can go complete... i have k-sports...
I am looking for a full coilover because you can adjust the heigth with out addind to the preload...I am not going to a full slam muffler scraching slam...just want to lower it a bit close up the fender gap and add some to the handeling..If i put 1000mi a year on the car i drove the **** out of it for that year...

as per the suspension forum GC seem to be what most talked about...yeah i was looking a Ksport...vex quoted me 800 for the Ksport pro damper which is right at the max of my suspension budget
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