has there been any side projects on the k-series ecu for hacking? I can't believe that Hondata just pwns everyone....

 

K series ECUs have been cracked for quite some time, actually.

 

K20a ecu stock can be tune or not? or it still need to add k100 memory board to tune with kflashpro?

 

K-Pro is the only software/hardware currently available to the public to tune those ECUs with.

 

OK so to answer the OPs question, Hondata is still the only way "publicly" to tune K series ECU's. Or am I missing something here?

 

The OPs question was whether there were any side projects for K series. The answer was yes.

The other guys question on whether he still needs a K-Pro or not for tuning a k20a ECU is also yes, as the K-Pro is still currently the only public application to tune those ECUs. He was not the OP and that was not the original question.

I'd hope that was pretty clear from the posts... and you shouldn't be missing anything.

 

Correct......

 

Got it!

Could this lack of K series ECU DIY tuning possibly have anything to do with the whole PGM-FI - Hondata ordeal? Hondata's way to scare off competition for the KPro.

 

Your answer was;
That doesn't exactly say "Yes" people are working on an alternate tuning hardware/software to K-Pro.

I've got it straight now though thanks HR

 

Definitely not, but I see why you might think that.

That whole thing had to do with someone cracking Hondata's hardware and using it to dump their info. Bad deal all around. Cracking the stock K series ECU itself has nothing to do with Hondata and thusly there's no chance of a repeat of that particular scenario.

With K series you'll probably never see something like Crome, a freeware application for tuning.

Will you some day see another K series tuning application? Yes, definitely. When? That's up to the guys involved I suppose.

 

I suppose he didn't specifically ask if there's someone working on an alternate tuning package, so I only answered his question as specific as he gave it. He asked about the hacking aspect of the K series ECU and they've definitely been hacked for several years already.

 

Is I-VTEC really that big of a deal? The OBD1 ECU's seem to have a lot of functionality, I kind of figured that might be why the K series tuning is slow to come around. I have yet to even look at a K series ECU. Seems like a waste with all of the cheaper alternatives around.

I figured that there wouldn't be another freeware version for tuning. However, Crome has spawned a few bigger and better pieces of OBD1 tuning hardware & the software to match.

 

Honestly, the OBD2 ECUs are way more versatile and we get to keep OBD2 compatibility. i-VTEC is definitely a big deal. Very cool to work with for power and efficiency. The OBD2 ECUs really aren't that expensive if you know where to find them.

I'd say ECU hacking in general spawned the Ostrich as competition with the Xtronics Romulator, which as a product left room for improvement (And the Ostrich certainly improved over it). Crome certainly wasn't the first editor being made. We've all played our part in the history, though.

 

Lol, so I take it you have been working on a k-series editor.

Still waiting on your option. Oh yeah, I need it for the FA.

 

I can neither confirm or deny any such involvement, but of course I like to mess around with these ECUs. Been doing it for over 10 years. You should see the stack of ECUs I have here from different applications lol. I crack them for fun, I don't always make a usable system out of it.

Ifffff I ever did decide to, though, FA is definitely on the list as that's one that's been cracked already.

 

Damn James, you sure you don't work for legal.

LOL. Once I got through the super secret business owner, head of RD, lawyer, spy,ecu cracker talk, I think I understand what you said.

FA for sure.

 

LOL. It's always fun to throw that phrase out there. That and "If I told you I'd have to kill you". You know how it goes.

 

OMG mtber i cannot sleep looking this picture

 

LOL....

 

Okay so i guess i'm asking what public info has been released on mod/hacking K-series ecu's? Such as all the public info on modding obdI ecu's? I know at the moment there are no open source projects for editing the k-series ecu's.

 

There's some info on dumping a K series ECU on pgmfi.org, but other than that... after lining John Cui's pockets for years by providing information publicly only to have him disappear on his customers (And Calvin as a repeat scenario) and tarnish the whole idea behind what we were originally trying to achieve, I don't think any of us are stupid enough to put a lot of information out in the public realm this time around. Doing the same thing over and expecting different results... I think there's a word for that...

 

Insanity.................

So are you saying that Calvin is on his way out as well? It seems that way to me. My eCtune lic is still f#@ked up. I've paid $300 for Crome Pro and eCtune already. Guess I should have picked Neptune from the start eh!

 

I see... I thought John stopped his interest in Crome, sounds like he burned a few people along the way.

I'll have to check PGMFI about this dumping info. i figure the way on bypass the immobilizer was changing the value of the code to read all FFFFFF's

 

Insanity, as Albert Einstein explains it.

Ya, John burned a few people who can't renew their licenses now and people are still buying Crome licenses.

Calvin hasn't made an actual update to his stuff in a year. I was going to buy eCtune and fix the issues it has, but he couldn't provide his financial statements because paypal closed his account.

Bypassing the immo is actually a bit more tricky than that, but not very difficult.

 

MOV EAX, 4
RETN
NOP
NOP

That's all i'm saying with Crome.