anyone have the cam card for the Jun 3 camshafts?
in need of the cam card for the Jun 3's for B series. dont wanna put them at 0 cause my head and block have been significantly resurfaced and milled
Last edited by tempsohc; Sep 22, 2011 at 08:27 AM.
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#1 (Pri) #2 (Mid) #3 (2nd) VC
Duration Lift Duration Lift Duration Lift
Type3 IN 60 (240) 6.5 76 (304) 12.0 63 (252) 9.0 0.17
EX 63 (252) 8.7 76 (304) 11.5 60 (240) 6.2 0.19
Part# 1004M-H003 (INT)
- 1mm lift at 32° ABDC
- 110° lobe centre
- 1mm lift at 8° ATDC
Part# 1004M-H103 (EXH)
- 1mm lift at 8° BTDC
- 110° lobe centre
- 1mm lift at 32° BBDC
I ALSO have this from cheetah
Jun3 cam degree specs
degree peak open @ 20 thous:
Intake cam 12-17 deg BTDC with 20thous of lift
Exhaust cam 61 deg BBDC
Duration Lift Duration Lift Duration Lift
Type3 IN 60 (240) 6.5 76 (304) 12.0 63 (252) 9.0 0.17
EX 63 (252) 8.7 76 (304) 11.5 60 (240) 6.2 0.19
Part# 1004M-H003 (INT)
- 1mm lift at 32° ABDC
- 110° lobe centre
- 1mm lift at 8° ATDC
Part# 1004M-H103 (EXH)
- 1mm lift at 8° BTDC
- 110° lobe centre
- 1mm lift at 32° BBDC
I ALSO have this from cheetah
Jun3 cam degree specs
degree peak open @ 20 thous:
Intake cam 12-17 deg BTDC with 20thous of lift
Exhaust cam 61 deg BBDC
Last edited by DDTECH; Sep 22, 2011 at 05:18 PM.
#1 (Pri) #2 (Mid) #3 (2nd) VC
Duration Lift Duration Lift Duration Lift
Type3 IN 60 (240) 6.5 76 (304) 12.0 63 (252) 9.0 0.17
EX 63 (252) 8.7 76 (304) 11.5 60 (240) 6.2 0.19
Part# 1004M-H003 (INT)
- 1mm lift at 32° ABDC
- 110° lobe centre
- 1mm lift at 8° ATDC
Part# 1004M-H103 (EXH)
- 1mm lift at 8° BTDC
- 110° lobe centre
- 1mm lift at 32° BBDC
I ALSO have this from cheetah
Jun3 cam degree specs
degree peak open @ 20 thous:
Intake cam 12-17 deg BTDC with 20thous of lift
Exhaust cam 61 deg BBDC
Duration Lift Duration Lift Duration Lift
Type3 IN 60 (240) 6.5 76 (304) 12.0 63 (252) 9.0 0.17
EX 63 (252) 8.7 76 (304) 11.5 60 (240) 6.2 0.19
Part# 1004M-H003 (INT)
- 1mm lift at 32° ABDC
- 110° lobe centre
- 1mm lift at 8° ATDC
Part# 1004M-H103 (EXH)
- 1mm lift at 8° BTDC
- 110° lobe centre
- 1mm lift at 32° BBDC
I ALSO have this from cheetah
Jun3 cam degree specs
degree peak open @ 20 thous:
Intake cam 12-17 deg BTDC with 20thous of lift
Exhaust cam 61 deg BBDC
So peak lift should occur at 110 degrees crank right?
Last edited by tempsohc; Sep 23, 2011 at 12:39 PM.
finally recieved the reply from Jun. This is what i got.
JUN Auto Mechanic3-1-7 Sekimachikita Nerimaku TokyoTel 81-3-3920-4165 Fax 81-3-3594-2689Sep 24
Dear Mr. *censored*
Thank you for your mail.
B-series type 3
1. Tappet clearance IN 0.17mm / EX 0.19mm
2. Take the center angle 110 degree from TDC at the primary lobe in eachintake exhaust cam.
Thank you,
So my question now is Center angle is peak lift. Which should occur at 110 degree's btdc, or atdc? and for which cam lobe am i degreeing? it says primary cam lobe meaing? Im confused.
Do i need to lock the vtec in place? do i just degree it using the non vtec lobes? how so? and which lobe is the primary i should be using> it seems they are off set a little. Idk
ALL motor: did you degree them in using the vtec lobe?
JUN Auto Mechanic3-1-7 Sekimachikita Nerimaku TokyoTel 81-3-3920-4165 Fax 81-3-3594-2689Sep 24
Dear Mr. *censored*
Thank you for your mail.
B-series type 3
1. Tappet clearance IN 0.17mm / EX 0.19mm
2. Take the center angle 110 degree from TDC at the primary lobe in eachintake exhaust cam.
Thank you,
So my question now is Center angle is peak lift. Which should occur at 110 degree's btdc, or atdc? and for which cam lobe am i degreeing? it says primary cam lobe meaing? Im confused.
Do i need to lock the vtec in place? do i just degree it using the non vtec lobes? how so? and which lobe is the primary i should be using> it seems they are off set a little. Idk
ALL motor: did you degree them in using the vtec lobe?
Last edited by tempsohc; Sep 25, 2011 at 10:05 PM.
finally recieved the reply from Jun. This is what i got.
JUN Auto Mechanic3-1-7 Sekimachikita Nerimaku TokyoTel 81-3-3920-4165 Fax 81-3-3594-2689Sep 24
Dear Mr. *censored*
Thank you for your mail.
B-series type 3
1. Tappet clearance IN 0.17mm / EX 0.19mm
2. Take the center angle 110 degree from TDC at the primary lobe in eachintake exhaust cam.
Thank you,
So my question now is Center angle is peak lift. Which should occur at 110 degree's btdc, or atdc? and for which cam lobe am i degreeing? it says primary cam lobe meaing? Im confused.
Do i need to lock the vtec in place? do i just degree it using the non vtec lobes? how so? and which lobe is the primary i should be using> it seems they are off set a little. Idk
ALL motor: did you degree them in using the vtec lobe?
JUN Auto Mechanic3-1-7 Sekimachikita Nerimaku TokyoTel 81-3-3920-4165 Fax 81-3-3594-2689Sep 24
Dear Mr. *censored*
Thank you for your mail.
B-series type 3
1. Tappet clearance IN 0.17mm / EX 0.19mm
2. Take the center angle 110 degree from TDC at the primary lobe in eachintake exhaust cam.
Thank you,
So my question now is Center angle is peak lift. Which should occur at 110 degree's btdc, or atdc? and for which cam lobe am i degreeing? it says primary cam lobe meaing? Im confused.
Do i need to lock the vtec in place? do i just degree it using the non vtec lobes? how so? and which lobe is the primary i should be using> it seems they are off set a little. Idk
ALL motor: did you degree them in using the vtec lobe?
Lock vtec. Use vtec lobe.
so what exactly did they mean by use primary lobe? i searched and primary lobe is the non v lobe correct? well i will lock the vtec in. St my lash to 0.
Thanks all motor for your patience with me!
Thanks all motor for your patience with me!
Last edited by tempsohc; Sep 26, 2011 at 12:16 PM.
I would use vtec lobe to degree in, if the primary does share the same centerlines then yea, you could use the primary lobes without locking vtec, but i'd just do it the normal way. That away you can also check your P2V and what not while vtec is locked. Better then guessing.
I would use vtec lobe to degree in, if the primary does share the same centerlines then yea, you could use the primary lobes without locking vtec, but i'd just do it the normal way. That away you can also check your P2V and what not while vtec is locked. Better then guessing.
Contact JUN, ask them if their primaries follow the same center lines as their vtec lobes, if so you will not have to lock vtec, however thats a shadtree way out.
help me out. im hella confused.
Your measurements are taken after 1mm of lift is achieved correct?
Part# 1004M-H003 (INT)
- 1mm lift at 32° ABDC (closing)
- 110° lobe centre
- 1mm lift at 8° ATDC(opening)
Part# 1004M-H103 (EXH)
- 1mm lift at 8° BTDC(opening)
- 110° lobe centre
- 1mm lift at 32° BBDC(closing)
Lobe center is 110° on the degree wheel correct. peak lift occurs at 110° right?
So confused
Your measurements are taken after 1mm of lift is achieved correct?
Part# 1004M-H003 (INT)
- 1mm lift at 32° ABDC (closing)
- 110° lobe centre
- 1mm lift at 8° ATDC(opening)
Part# 1004M-H103 (EXH)
- 1mm lift at 8° BTDC(opening)
- 110° lobe centre
- 1mm lift at 32° BBDC(closing)
Lobe center is 110° on the degree wheel correct. peak lift occurs at 110° right?
So confused
finally got a chance to set this up. I ended up with +2I +1E
head decked .005 block decked .005 running a .018 headgasket. sound right?
Intake cam gear was advanced 1/2 tooth So TDC marks on the gears where off when i started.
head decked .005 block decked .005 running a .018 headgasket. sound right?
Intake cam gear was advanced 1/2 tooth So TDC marks on the gears where off when i started.
1/2 a tooth or half a degree advanced? Your measurements add up to about .020" height reduction which translates to 1/2 a degree correction required. Your cam gear final numbers sound about right and not out of whack.
well it seemed like the exhaust gear was perfectly level with the head and the exhaust line matched up to 1/2-1/8 of a tooth under the line on the intake gear(both cams at 0) thats the only way i could eliminate all the belt slack and get the gears to somewhat line up.
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